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> I don’t think there is clinical level evidence for it Even if it's 100% placebo, if it's not harmful, and it works for a person, then it works. But, determin

by goda90 1y ago

> I don’t think there is clinical level evidence for it Even if it's 100% placebo, if it's not harmful, and it works for a person, then it works. But, determining if it's not harmful should be a priority. I found this person saying it made their life worse, for example: https://www.reddit.com/r/CPTSD_NSCommunity/comments/ungaew/tretrauma_releasing_exercises_ruined_my_life_i/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CPTSD_NSCommunity/comments/ungaew/t...

detourdog 1y ago
I think you are correct. The strangest things I have learned about personality disorder is that diagnosis applies for as long as the disordered behavior exists. If the disordered person's behavior adapts to "social norms" the diagnosis no longer applies.
- Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 1y ago
  Well yeah but the definition of "personnality" IS that it's not supposed to move. Do there's a kinda circular reasonning going on
  - detourdog 1y ago
    I think that is how one graduates to the next level of dysregulation. If the one can't change their attitude and it is pervasive that is a more severe problem. Finally I think there is evidence that people are able to change if they desire it and devote years to it.
- parineum 1y ago
  You're somewhat implying this but I'm not sure if you know it exactly but others might find it informative... The reason for that is that the "disorder" part of it is a requirement that it get in the way of normal living. You can have anxiety but if you take a deep breath and you can overcome it, it's not a disorder. If that doesn't help or even if you just haven't tried it, it's a disorder.
  - detourdog 1y ago
    Thank you. Does that make it also situational or even relationship specific? I guess the depth of the relationship might also ramp the disorder.
  - johnisgood 1y ago
    I wish some psychiatrists knew that. I had a recent conversation with at least two who do not. One of them is around 35 years old (so quite young). These days they call hobbies (like drawing) a "distraction" or go as far as call it an addiction. They are so out of touch with the literature and science with regarding to psychiatry, it is wild.

by goda90 1y ago

detourdog 1y ago

I think you are correct. The strangest things I have learned about personality disorder is that diagnosis applies for as long as the disordered behavior exists. If the disordered person's behavior adapts to "social norms" the diagnosis no longer applies.

Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 1y ago
Well yeah but the definition of "personnality" IS that it's not supposed to move. Do there's a kinda circular reasonning going on
- detourdog 1y ago
  I think that is how one graduates to the next level of dysregulation. If the one can't change their attitude and it is pervasive that is a more severe problem. Finally I think there is evidence that people are able to change if they desire it and devote years to it.
parineum 1y ago
You're somewhat implying this but I'm not sure if you know it exactly but others might find it informative... The reason for that is that the "disorder" part of it is a requirement that it get in the way of normal living. You can have anxiety but if you take a deep breath and you can overcome it, it's not a disorder. If that doesn't help or even if you just haven't tried it, it's a disorder.
- detourdog 1y ago
  Thank you. Does that make it also situational or even relationship specific? I guess the depth of the relationship might also ramp the disorder.
- johnisgood 1y ago
  I wish some psychiatrists knew that. I had a recent conversation with at least two who do not. One of them is around 35 years old (so quite young). These days they call hobbies (like drawing) a "distraction" or go as far as call it an addiction. They are so out of touch with the literature and science with regarding to psychiatry, it is wild.