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I basically agree with you, but also am not sure how to square this with my belief that we are really gathering way too much information as a society (it always

I basically agree with you, but also am not sure how to square this with my belief that we are really gathering way too much information as a society (it always leaks).

clipsy 2y ago
> but also am not sure how to square this with my belief that we are really gathering way too much information as a society I think a good starting point for squaring this is to examine it in the context of what else the administration is doing (or not doing) to protect the privacy of citizens. This move has an enormous deleterious effect on police accountability in exchange for a fairly small increase in citizen privacy, so if the administration is ignoring more effective ways to improve the citizenry's privacy you can safely infer what really motivated their decision to back away from body cams.
itsanaccount 2y ago
its about power. you smoking a cig in an alley on your 15 minute break? you should have every right and privilege on earth. you running 10,000 person strong group of people with the legal right to use force against your fellow man fighting to deny people their personal liberties with a long history of corruption? i don't care if there's cameras in the bathrooms.
- tzs 2y ago
  I think you misread the thread. The posters above weren’t talking about the bathrooms of the DEA. The are talking about the bathrooms of the people the body cam wearing DEA officers encounter.
  - itsanaccount 2y ago
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    - mobtrain 2y ago
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      - owebmaster 2y ago
        > It seems you also didn’t bother to consider you are on HN and not Reddit. Here in HN people can't be against cops?
        mrangle 2y ago
        I guess you can be whatever you want, but the type of language that you and they use is variously so general and insulting that any type of response should be on the table. For example, do cops participate here? Or people with cops in their families? Yet, we have a person who, in my opinion, seems to struggle with concepts of daily life that is calling them bastards. Is that opinion moderated? If not, are in-kind responses allowed? Or perhaps this forum is institutionally skewed to the poster's juvenile opinion.
        itsanaccount 2y ago
        This forum is skewed towards capitalists, and cops protect property. Its not a juvenile opinion to point out how power works. Its actually my only hobby on this site. And for people who have cops in their family, its not unknown to me. Its like having family in a gang. Or the mob. They're fine people, you can have dinner and enjoyable conversations. But when the gang comes up in discussion they're gonna protect the colors. The fellow who responded and then blanked their post I think is European, which with no guns and a socialist safety net I might allow have a different flavor than US police, founded as possibly the town watch instead of slave catchers and immigrant beaters. But this is an article about the DEA, ACAB is very appropriate.
        mrangle 2y ago
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I basically agree with you, but also am not sure how to square this with my belief that we are really gathering way too much information as a society (it always leaks).

clipsy 2y ago

> but also am not sure how to square this with my belief that we are really gathering way too much information as a society I think a good starting point for squaring this is to examine it in the context of what else the administration is doing (or not doing) to protect the privacy of citizens. This move has an enormous deleterious effect on police accountability in exchange for a fairly small increase in citizen privacy, so if the administration is ignoring more effective ways to improve the citizenry's privacy you can safely infer what really motivated their decision to back away from body cams.

itsanaccount 2y ago

its about power. you smoking a cig in an alley on your 15 minute break? you should have every right and privilege on earth. you running 10,000 person strong group of people with the legal right to use force against your fellow man fighting to deny people their personal liberties with a long history of corruption? i don't care if there's cameras in the bathrooms.

tzs 2y ago
I think you misread the thread. The posters above weren’t talking about the bathrooms of the DEA. The are talking about the bathrooms of the people the body cam wearing DEA officers encounter.
- itsanaccount 2y ago
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  - mobtrain 2y ago
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    - owebmaster 2y ago
      > It seems you also didn’t bother to consider you are on HN and not Reddit. Here in HN people can't be against cops?
      - mrangle 2y ago
        I guess you can be whatever you want, but the type of language that you and they use is variously so general and insulting that any type of response should be on the table. For example, do cops participate here? Or people with cops in their families? Yet, we have a person who, in my opinion, seems to struggle with concepts of daily life that is calling them bastards. Is that opinion moderated? If not, are in-kind responses allowed? Or perhaps this forum is institutionally skewed to the poster's juvenile opinion.
        itsanaccount 2y ago
        This forum is skewed towards capitalists, and cops protect property. Its not a juvenile opinion to point out how power works. Its actually my only hobby on this site. And for people who have cops in their family, its not unknown to me. Its like having family in a gang. Or the mob. They're fine people, you can have dinner and enjoyable conversations. But when the gang comes up in discussion they're gonna protect the colors. The fellow who responded and then blanked their post I think is European, which with no guns and a socialist safety net I might allow have a different flavor than US police, founded as possibly the town watch instead of slave catchers and immigrant beaters. But this is an article about the DEA, ACAB is very appropriate.
        mrangle 2y ago
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