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But that's kinda the beauty of it. If you get laid off from one of these places the next place doesn't know that you took 300k home to do jack, all they know is
by _fat_santa 1y ago
But that's kinda the beauty of it. If you get laid off from one of these places the next place doesn't know that you took 300k home to do jack, all they know is you worked for a super prestigious company for 10 years and you can plausibly make up the rest about what you actually did there.
- yawgmoth 1y ago> you can plausibly make up the rest about what you actually did there. I would never do this, and if you would do this I wouldn't want to work with you. Maybe I'm a sucker, but I sleep alright.
- chausen 1y agoWhat about actually accomplishing some things over 10 years while maintaining good work life balance?
- whstl 1y agoThat's the dream, but it requires either luck (to fall into a great company) or burning of political capital (plus luck).
- dbalatero 1y agoIt's not like the parent would have accomplished nothing in the 10 years. I think they are just talking about framing it in language palatable to the interviewer across the table.
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- whstl 1y agoEven in the most dysfunctional organizations you can't spend 10 years doing nothing. GP was achieving what their bosses asked of them. It's just that it didn't align with their own professional goals of improving the product they work on.
- kunzhi 1y agoSorry, 20 years experience of actually doing things here. I've spent 10 of those years now doing consulting with everyone from 3-person pre-series-A startups all the way up to the Fortune 50. Let me unequivocal: you can spend 30-40 years at a company doing absolutely nothing while getting paid for it. Do not let anyone try to convince you otherwise. I've seen such much unethical bloodsucking in my career that at this point I wouldn't mind seeing a few companies collapse under the weight of their own karma.
- bluefirebrand 1y ago> Let me unequivocal: you can spend 30-40 years at a company doing absolutely nothing while getting paid for it. Maybe this was true for 40 years from the 70s to the 2000s, or maybe even the 80s-10s, but I don't think this is true anymore Certainly not in software engineering, in a world run by JIRA
- wbl 1y agoTo clarify: the tickets can close but they don't push the product forward at all.
- bdangubic 1y agooh man, respectfully but this cannot be further from the truth. SWEs have successfully convinced everyone that profession “is not about just coding” (you see a sea of these statements here on HN in 100x daily posts “will LLMs replace us”) and hence tools like Jira only amplify ability to do (mostly) nothing
- whstl 1y ago“Absolutely nothing” is still doing what is asked of you by a boss. Unless you’re talking CEOs fooling the board, of course. Not contributing meaningful things is an arbitrary metric that is often only used to put people down. One can build the whole product and there will still be some asshole claiming they did the easy part or “you didn’t work enough in it to know what’s like”. The incompetence here lies 100% with person keeping the employee.
- joezydeco 1y agoYou haven't been on LinkedIn in the last few years, then.
- johnnyanmac 1y agounfortunately I have. It is indeed a hellscape of, as the kids say, "aura farming". Microsoft really seem to want to turn it into Instagram for some reason. I still use it as a job board, personally.
- happymellon 1y agoIs there any other meaningful job board (outside of "whose hiring" on hn)? I haven't had to apply for a job for a while, so genuinely curious what people would use these days if there wasn't anything coming via word of mouth.
- toomuchtodo 1y agohttps://hiring.cafe https://hiring.cafe (no affiliation)
- chipsrafferty 1y agoIt's quite the opposite. Instagram is turning into LinkedIn.
- babyent 1y agoChances are high anyone to corroborate was laid off and does the same thing anyway lol
- babyent 1y agoChances are high anyone to corroborate was laid off or has moved on, and does the same thing anyway lol
- blitzar 1y agoThere is a very high probability that someone you work for did just this.
- stronglikedan 1y agoEverybody does this to some degree. Even you.
- ImPostingOnHN 1y agoIf you're going to lie about experience anyways, you don't have to work for the FAANG company in the first place.
- anon84873628 1y agoIt's not lying about your experience. Just not hustling to "get things done" or caring so much about personal satisfaction in the work. Better to do some carpentry or pottery outside of work and put your pride in that.
- ImPostingOnHN 1y ago> you can plausibly make up the rest about what you actually did there saying you did things, which you did not do, is lying about your experience
- masom 1y agoThis becomes quickly apparent in a smaller company or if you have a manager that knows what they are doing. You'll get hired, if you pass the technical interviews, but if you cannot contribute at the level they hired you, you'll be exited and that will be suspicious for your next application.
- thinkingtoilet 1y ago>but if you cannot contribute at the level they hired you, you'll be exited But this is the case for anyone anywhere, it doesn't effect the OPs position one way or another.
- johnnyanmac 1y agoit'd be quicker if they feel you either lied or do not live up to your name. Easier to fire you and find someone on your level but much cheaper.
- blitzar 1y ago> This becomes quickly apparent in a smaller company or if you have a manager that knows what they are doing Sounds like an unlikely problem and by then you can pull a reverse end run around your manager to their manager who doesn't know what they are doing and will believe anything the guy who worked at google says. Most people here actually work for that guy.
- bluecheese452 1y agoIf you took home 300k for 10 years then you don’t have to worry about getting a job.
- PaulHoule 1y agoFor many people expenses expand to fill income. Some people think that the real brilliant investors of the bay area are the real estate investors who captured all the value.
- sokoloff 1y agoThat’s only $3M total gross. You paid over $1M in taxes across fed, state, and FICA. You probably spent over $500K if you lived quite frugally. That leaves maybe $1.25M plus some growth on that. Call it $1.5M. That will give you $60K/yr in income with high likelihood to last 30+ years. Pay taxes on that and you’re living in less than the $50K/yr you were living on before plus you have to buy health insurance. That’s not very appealing to most.
- esseph 1y agoThe last sentence is completely wrong - that's almost the US median income. MORE THAN HALF make less, and they are actually working during that timeframe.
- bluecheese452 1y agoYou spent 50k a year if you lived quite frugally?