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Are you aware of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch ? Might be a cultural thing to not like that word.
by blueflow 1y ago
Are you aware of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch ? Might be a cultural thing to not like that word.
- amelius 1y agoI have deleted this comment because this discussion is going nowhere.
- homebrewer 1y agoHe's absolutely right. As someone whose society suffered very heavy losses from the Nazis, this is the first thing that came to my mind when I read the root comment. It's like posting swastikas online and then dismissing concerned replies because "it's a Buddhist sign, what are you on about?"
- amelius 1y agoExcept in this case the victims (the hungry children) are not the ones being labeled that. Also the word subhuman is in the dictionary (I checked Webster's) with zero reference to the war.
- blueflow 1y agoAnd "n*gro" is the Spanish, non-slur word for "black" but yet we can't use it because US people dislike it. Slavery and such. Cultural sensitivity goes both ways.
- amelius 1y ago> And "n*gro" is the Spanish, non-slur word for "black" but yet we can't use it because US people dislike it. Slavery and such. Cultural sensitivity goes both ways. Webster's dictionary: plural Negroes 1 dated, often offensive : a person of Black African ancestry 2 dated, often offensive : a member of a group of people formerly considered to constitute a race (see race entry 1 sense 1a) of humans having African ancestry and classified according to physical traits (such as dark skin pigmentation) Note the "offensive" warnings. Now let's see subhuman: : less than human: such as a: failing to attain the level (as of morality or intelligence) associated with normal human beings b: unsuitable to or unfit for human beings subhuman living conditions c: of or relating to a taxonomic group lower than that of humans; the subhuman primates In the case of subhuman, Webster's dictionary does not give any warning. And there is no reference to any wars. Don't try to make people say things they are not saying. In this case the intended meaning was clearly: "failing to attain the level (as of morality) associated with normal human beings"
- blueflow 1y agoLike you, probably, I got a very systemizing brain and had trouble understanding this for decades. What the dictionaries say about the words does not matter - what is offensive to other people does not follow any system, but their feelings. And that means its arbitrary and you have probably no chance to know it ahead of time. I feel your pain, tho.
- mtnGoat 1y agoI am the OP that used that word. I was unaware of this connection, my apologies. I will consider this if using the word in the future. I was aiming for the “not having basic human morals” usage of the word, nothing more.
- mobtrain 1y agoI am glad to read this. (I am the originally - bit snarky - commenter about your use of the word, and do indeed live in Germany) .. my snap reaction my not have been worded the best it could have been :)
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