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You do understand this is a move to protect Hollywood, Right? It is for the very reasons you cited.

_aavaa_ 1y ago
In the domestic market maybe, but I think their point is that it will severely hurt Hollywood abroad.
brookst 1y ago
By “protect” you mean “roll back to the 1950’s”, righ? Because Hollywood today was doing quite well and I don’t think I’ve heard a single industry source asking for this. IMO the other shoe here is stronger content restrictions and more government control of what gets made. Easier to do that with US productions, hence the attempt to make everything distributed in the US a US production.
- jparishy 1y ago
  Who isn't asking for something to bring more production home? Studio execs? People in LA, ATL, etc want to work, and every year there is less and less jobs below the line in the US, even though there's more productions overall paid for by US companies. This sentiment you're talking about is at least not universal
  - watwut 1y ago
    I have hear actors complain about AI, I have heard various guilds striking over about dozens of causes ... moving abroad was not one of them.
    - jparishy 1y ago
      Then you might be missing it as it’s a huge huge issue for below the line workers (actors are part of the package we’re shipping out to other countries)
- Hard_Space 1y ago
  >Because Hollywood today was doing quite well and I don’t think I’ve heard a single industry source asking for this. Unless the new edict excludes farming out VFX. The VFX industry has been on its knees for years now, in a race to the bottom that has made r/vfx a pretty depressing place. (Source: Spent the last few years working for a well-known VFX company)
willvarfar 1y ago
The modern popularist says exactly the opposite to what they mean. Again and again. They talk about freedom as they remove it, free speech as they suppress it, the arts as they defund it, manufacturing as they gut it etc. And all this while claiming a state of emergency and necessary for national security.
- rubyfan 1y ago
  I’ve applied a heuristic in my life to not trust anyone who promotes “transparency”. It sounds counterintuitive but in my experience this is just a tool of attack allowing them insinuate a scheme or conspiracy is at play and then to twist the narrative to what they want. Don’t trust them, trust me I’m transparent.
- WesolyKubeczek 1y ago
  For security reasons, you are required to write down your passwords in the password journal at the entrance desk.
realusername 1y ago
Protect Hollywood from what? It's the top movie industry in the world, the only way to go from there is going down.
artemisart 1y ago
But do you understand it will harm Hollywood? This is the economic, country scale equivalent of saying "fuck your movies", do you think the answer will be "oh sorry, I'll keep buying yours" or "fuck your movies too"?
- kjksf 1y ago
  It will reduce the profit margins of Hollywood studios. Maybe reduce the bonuses of their CEO. It'll help thousands of Americans that used to be employed by said studios but were fired not because they couldn't do the job but because the greed of studio execs made them move production outside of the US, playing financial arbitrage games against the interest of the US. Trump is trying to reverse this by making movies outside of the US, especially by US companies, more expensive. The goal here is not some statement about Hollywood but to bring movie production jobs back to US. The extras, the people who build sets, people who make food for actors etc. And jobs bring tax revenue and grow GDP, which helps every american.
  - card_zero 1y ago
    This kills the movies.
  - SpicyLemonZest 1y ago
    It’s categorically impossible that this could bring movie production jobs to the US. If a policy along these lines is implemented, both foreign and domestic consumers will launch a massive retaliatory boycott. (I will personally begin that boycott today unless Hollywood executives denounce the proposal.) The current dominance of American media offers absolutely no leverage, because it’s trivial and cost-free to go cold turkey on it.
  - tremon 1y ago
    You really think CEOs will choose to reduce their bonuses to help thousands of common Americans?
mensetmanusman 1y ago
It protects the poor in Hollywood, not the rich.
nobody9999 1y ago
>You do understand this is a move to protect Hollywood, Right? Protect Hollywood from who, exactly? IIUC, an increasing number of "American" movies (i.e., those produced/financed by American studios) are being filmed outside the US. This isn't a bunch of foreign film makers ganging up on poor, beleaguered film companies like Disney, Paramount and Neflix. They, of course, are going to go out of business any minute now because those evil foreigners are taking away their movies. /s No. Those very profitable studios are choosing to make movies outside the US to bolster those high profits by reducing labor, physical plant and safety expenditures. As such, how is charging Hollywood studios 100% tariffs to import the movies those same studios paid to make "protecting" Hollywood? Don't mistake the above for my support of Hollywood studios. They are the OG rapacious scumbags that the SV tech bros are trying (and sometimes succeeding) in emulating.
myvoiceismypass 1y ago
He actually cited it being a National Security threat
- tremon 1y ago
  Everything is a national security threat, because it's an argument-terminating escape. As soon as you play the national security card, you don't have to explain yourself any further because obviously the real reasons can't be disclosed because of National Security (tm).

In the domestic market maybe, but I think their point is that it will severely hurt Hollywood abroad.

By “protect” you mean “roll back to the 1950’s”, righ? Because Hollywood today was doing quite well and I don’t think I’ve heard a single industry source asking for this. IMO the other shoe here is stronger content restrictions and more government control of what gets made. Easier to do that with US productions, hence the attempt to make everything distributed in the US a US production.

jparishy 1y ago
Who isn't asking for something to bring more production home? Studio execs? People in LA, ATL, etc want to work, and every year there is less and less jobs below the line in the US, even though there's more productions overall paid for by US companies. This sentiment you're talking about is at least not universal
- watwut 1y ago
  I have hear actors complain about AI, I have heard various guilds striking over about dozens of causes ... moving abroad was not one of them.
  - jparishy 1y ago
    Then you might be missing it as it’s a huge huge issue for below the line workers (actors are part of the package we’re shipping out to other countries)
Hard_Space 1y ago
>Because Hollywood today was doing quite well and I don’t think I’ve heard a single industry source asking for this. Unless the new edict excludes farming out VFX. The VFX industry has been on its knees for years now, in a race to the bottom that has made r/vfx a pretty depressing place. (Source: Spent the last few years working for a well-known VFX company)

willvarfar 1y ago

The modern popularist says exactly the opposite to what they mean. Again and again. They talk about freedom as they remove it, free speech as they suppress it, the arts as they defund it, manufacturing as they gut it etc. And all this while claiming a state of emergency and necessary for national security.

rubyfan 1y ago
I’ve applied a heuristic in my life to not trust anyone who promotes “transparency”. It sounds counterintuitive but in my experience this is just a tool of attack allowing them insinuate a scheme or conspiracy is at play and then to twist the narrative to what they want. Don’t trust them, trust me I’m transparent.
WesolyKubeczek 1y ago
For security reasons, you are required to write down your passwords in the password journal at the entrance desk.

realusername 1y ago

Protect Hollywood from what? It's the top movie industry in the world, the only way to go from there is going down.

artemisart 1y ago

But do you understand it will harm Hollywood? This is the economic, country scale equivalent of saying "fuck your movies", do you think the answer will be "oh sorry, I'll keep buying yours" or "fuck your movies too"?

kjksf 1y ago
It will reduce the profit margins of Hollywood studios. Maybe reduce the bonuses of their CEO. It'll help thousands of Americans that used to be employed by said studios but were fired not because they couldn't do the job but because the greed of studio execs made them move production outside of the US, playing financial arbitrage games against the interest of the US. Trump is trying to reverse this by making movies outside of the US, especially by US companies, more expensive. The goal here is not some statement about Hollywood but to bring movie production jobs back to US. The extras, the people who build sets, people who make food for actors etc. And jobs bring tax revenue and grow GDP, which helps every american.
- card_zero 1y ago
  This kills the movies.
- SpicyLemonZest 1y ago
  It’s categorically impossible that this could bring movie production jobs to the US. If a policy along these lines is implemented, both foreign and domestic consumers will launch a massive retaliatory boycott. (I will personally begin that boycott today unless Hollywood executives denounce the proposal.) The current dominance of American media offers absolutely no leverage, because it’s trivial and cost-free to go cold turkey on it.
- tremon 1y ago
  You really think CEOs will choose to reduce their bonuses to help thousands of common Americans?

mensetmanusman 1y ago

It protects the poor in Hollywood, not the rich.

nobody9999 1y ago

>You do understand this is a move to protect Hollywood, Right? Protect Hollywood from who, exactly? IIUC, an increasing number of "American" movies (i.e., those produced/financed by American studios) are being filmed outside the US. This isn't a bunch of foreign film makers ganging up on poor, beleaguered film companies like Disney, Paramount and Neflix. They, of course, are going to go out of business any minute now because those evil foreigners are taking away their movies. /s No. Those very profitable studios are choosing to make movies outside the US to bolster those high profits by reducing labor, physical plant and safety expenditures. As such, how is charging Hollywood studios 100% tariffs to import the movies those same studios paid to make "protecting" Hollywood? Don't mistake the above for my support of Hollywood studios. They are the OG rapacious scumbags that the SV tech bros are trying (and sometimes succeeding) in emulating.

myvoiceismypass 1y ago

He actually cited it being a National Security threat

tremon 1y ago
Everything is a national security threat, because it's an argument-terminating escape. As soon as you play the national security card, you don't have to explain yourself any further because obviously the real reasons can't be disclosed because of National Security (tm).