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Forget AI "code", every single request will be processed BY AI! People aren't thinking far enough, why bother with programming at all when an AI can just do it
by kachapopopow 1y ago
Forget AI "code", every single request will be processed BY AI!
People aren't thinking far enough, why bother with programming at all when an AI can just do it?
It's very narrow to think that we will even need these 'programmed' applications in the future. Who needs operating systems and all that when all of it can just be AI.
In the future we don't even need hardware specifications since we can just train the AI to figure it out! Just plug inputs and outputs from a central motherboard to a memory slot.
Actually forget all that, it'll just be a magic box that takes any kind of input and spits out an output that you want!
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Side note: It would be really interesting to see a website that generates all the pages every time a user requests them, every time you navigate back it would look the same, but some buttons in different places, the live chat is in a different corner, the settings now have a vertical sidebar instead of a horizontal menu.
- codybontecou 1y agoA digital Costco.
- TeMPOraL 1y agoOr Star Trek, if you take a positive perspective instead of cynical one.
- jsheard 1y ago> Side note: It would be really interesting to see a website that generates all the pages every time a user requests them, every time you navigate back it would look the same, but some buttons in different places, the live chat is in a different corner, the settings now have a vertical sidebar instead of a horizontal menu. Please don't give A/B testers ideas, they would do that 100% unironically given the chance.
- wheelie_boy 1y agoIt's like that AI doom, where when you look at the floor and back up you're in a totally different room
- ozgrakkurt 1y agoThis is just not possible technically, and seems like it won’t be for a very long time
- suddenlybananas 1y agoI think it's meant to be ironic.
- evrimoztamur 1y agoResource scarcity will fix this!
- kachapopopow 1y agoWe will have fussion in 20 years!
- Aperocky 1y agoI've met with enough people that think like this (note: not just on AI) that I honestly can't tell if it's sarcasm anymore.
- alasano 1y agoTaken to the extreme and dumbed down, I don't think it's bad to think about it like that to be fair. HYPE spewing aside. The comment you replied to is sarcastic but magic box that does everything is pretty much where things end up, given enough time.
- CharlieDigital 1y ago> It would be really interesting to see a website that generates all the pages every time a user requests them We tried a variant of this for e-commerce and my take is that the results were significantly better than the retailer's native browsing experience. We had a retailer's entire catalog processed and indexed with a graph database and embeddings to dynamically generate dynamic "virtual shelves" each time when users searched. You can see the results and how it compares to the retailer's native results Example on Ulta's website: https://youtu.be/JL08UDxM_5M https://youtu.be/JL08UDxM_5M Example on Safeway: https://youtu.be/xQEfo_XCM2M https://youtu.be/xQEfo_XCM2M
- krapht 1y agoIt is nicer, but that interface latency would turn me off. When I search for online groceries, I want simple queries e.g spinach to return varieties (e.g frozen, fresh, and canned) of spinach as fast as possible.
- CharlieDigital 1y agoThis was the Best of both worlds in my opinion because you had the native results and then the AI generated personalized results
- baxtr 1y agoIs this a joke? Please tell me it is. So many people talk AI non-sense these days that it’s hard to distinguish from satire.
- kachapopopow 1y agoVery much is a joke.
- baq 1y agoThe optimistic take.
- kachapopopow 1y agoIt wouldn't be as funny if it was impossible.
- jonchurch_ 1y agoI think you’re joking in general, but your sidenote is already extremely close to websim[0] which is an art adjacent site that takes a URL as prompt and then creates the site. The point is effectively a hallucinated internet, and it is a neat toy [0] https://websim.ai/ https://websim.ai/
- surfingdino 1y agoI look forward to the day when AI returns a different list of my ailments for every new query from the hospital and suggests a new treatment for them.
- nkrisc 1y ago> On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.
- kachapopopow 1y agoAn Artificial Intelligence on that level would be able to easily figure out what you actually want. We should maybe go one step further and get rid of the inputs? They just add all of that complexity when they're not even needed.
- nkrisc 1y agoRight? The AI can just predict what we'll want and then create it for us.
- Filligree 1y agoWell, 'create it' at least. Leaving the humans in place would just mess things up.
- didgetmaster 1y agoIsn't that the whole premise behind 'The Matrix'? An imaginary world created as a simulation by machines.
- Mbwagava 1y agoYea but the world they created wasn't one anyone wanted or asked for any more than our own reality caters to us; it is intended to portray life as it was in the nineties. To accept this as ideal is to accept that we currently live in an ideal world, which is extremely difficult to accept.
- chronid 1y agoIn one of the movies it's actually explained the machines originally created an utopia for humanity, but it was bad for "engagement" and "retention" and they had to pivot on the nineties simulator - which was better accepted.
- adverbly 1y agoThis is flying car thinking IMO. You're entirely ignoring data ownership and privacy/security, energy/compute efficiency demands, latency.
- kachapopopow 1y agoBut... but the magic box said it is possible in theory! -- Well, actually this is more real than flying cars. It would just be very very very slow and wouldn't survive longer than few milliseconds at best.
- bigfatkitten 1y ago> You're entirely ignoring data ownership and privacy/security, energy/compute efficiency demands, latency. Web developers generally have very little regard for these things now.
- krainboltgreene 1y agoEven if that were true, and it’s not, that’s not a good thing.
- bathtub365 1y agoI think that’s the joke
- jt2190 1y agoExactly. People are too focused on shoehorning AI into today’s “humans driving computers” processes, instead of thinking about tomorrow’s “computers driving computers” processes. Exactly as you say, today it’s more efficient to create a “one size fits all” web site because human labor is so expensive, but with computer labor it will be possible to tailor content to each user’s tastes.
- tehjoker 1y agoAh yes, let's have a society where there are no common points of references between people and everyone's pocketbook is maximally empty
- nkrisc 1y agoSo where do humans fit into this future? Ah, I suppose someone has to mine the rare earth minerals used to create the hardware.
- jay_kyburz 1y agoI believe this is why there is so much fuss about AGI. Once you have humans out of the equation, hardware and power are the only limiting factor.
- myko 1y agoThis kind of thinking makes me consider the benefits of the Butlerian Jihad
- exiguus 1y agoThink about glasses that do this for you in real life. Everyone is seeing the world different, but with that, you can see your world different.
- Wowfunhappy 1y agoI don't know where we are on the LLM innovation S-curve, but I'm not convinced that plateau is going to be high enough for that. Even if we get an AI that could do what you describe, it won't necessarily be able to do it efficiently. It probably makes more sense to have the AI write some traditional computer code once which can be used again and again, at least until requirements change. The alternative is basically https://ai-2027.com/ https://ai-2027.com/ which obviously some people think is going to happen, but it's not the future I'm planning for, if only because it would make most of my current work and learning meaningless. If that happens, great, but I'd rather be prepared than caught off guard.
- staunton 1y agoThat leads to a kind of fluid distinction similar to interpreted vs. compiled languages. You tell the AI what you want it to do. The AI does what you want. It might process the requests itself, working at the "code level" of your input, which is the prompt. It might also generate some specific bytecode, taking time an effort which is made up for by more efficiently processing inputs. You could have something like JIT, where the AI decides which program to use for the given request, occasionally making and caching a new one if none fit.
- foobahhhhh 1y agoYeah AI at least now is so energy inefficient. There is only so much sun hitting earth we can be stupid with. Using AI for everything makes electron apps seem efficient! Once the hype runs out and you pay full price much AI today will be unattractive. Hopefully that leads to more efficient AI. (Which I suspect is more interesting)
- arandomhuman 1y agoI can’t tell if this is satire or not please help me
- throwup238 1y agoIt doesn’t matter. This is Hacker News: someone will take the idea seriously and slide us one step closer to a technodystopia.
- LouisSayers 1y agoThis actually sounds like a fun-ish project. Has anyone done this yet (AI handled dynamic API that calls into a bunch of systems)?
- sureglymop 1y agoI recently had an thought that is somewhat relevant. > sched_ext is a Linux kernel feature which enables implementing kernel thread schedulers in BPF and dynamically loading them. It would be interesting to see an AI scheduler for linux.
- Mbwagava 1y agoIt is the natural progression of trying to figure out how to slow down computation without providing additional value.
- echelon 1y agoI know this is satire, but you're right. In the future loose requirements will produce statically executable plans that run fast in future invocations. Our jobs will be replaced. It's just a matter of when. I'm very pessimistic about the near term. But long term, there's no way the jobs we do survive in their current form. If I were to guess, I'd say 20 or more years? But who knows.
- phreack 1y ago> Side note: It would be really interesting to see a website that generates all the pages every time a user requests them, every time you navigate back it would look the same, but some buttons in different places, the live chat is in a different corner, the settings now have a vertical sidebar instead of a horizontal menu. So, Instagram?
- nivertech 1y agoWho needs "a magic box that takes any kind of input and spits out an output that you want", when you can augment Human brain to do the same thing?
- foobahhhhh 1y agoTurtles all the way down: why bother with a GPU when you can get AI to guess the attention operation. Just tell the AI what the AI should do and it can use AI to compute the AI!