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How much one needs to make to justify the shocking $14K moving bill? I made north of $1M last year and never in my fucking sane mind i'd pay nearly as much! Wor

How much one needs to make to justify the shocking $14K moving bill? I made north of $1M last year and never in my fucking sane mind i'd pay nearly as much! Worst case, it's a matter of renting a truck and moving things oneself maybe hiring asking some neighbour to help loading and unloading, and offering him a drink after. Because you probably won't pack as densely as pro movers will, and you can do packaging as good, do two trips instead of one. $14K is a shock and a fucking ripoff even if it was done perfectly. How much time is needed to move otherwise? Two days, tops? One of which you spend anyway managing that move done by movers.

trial3 1y ago
your comment’s tone suggests you live alone. there are many sane answers to this that do not involve one’s salary at all: physical ability, distance, quantity of stuff, other demands on your time or, perhaps most of all, the time of people you are moving with. i personally am in a place where i still drive my own U-Hauls, but can very easily imagine the value of avoiding that amount of stress being worth just writing a huge check i also must point out the even brokest friends i’ve helped move at least sprung for pizza for everyone who helped
- anovikov 1y ago
  I don't live alone, and in general i'm not against the idea of someone doing it for a fee, but $14k!!! It's a fucking annual minimum wage. Also, as for driving a truck, sure it sucks driving a truck for days, but shipping a 20-foot container over a very long distance does not cost nearly as much. It's in the $1000-$2000 range. A 20-foot container should fit someone's all possessions. Someone charging $12K for packing and unpacking definitely rips people off, big time.
  - simoncion 1y ago
    Assuming a three-day job and a three-man crew the math works out to: 14000/(24*3*3) 64.81481481481481 about sixty-five bucks an hour. [0] OP doesn't mention if the house was packed up into a container to be loaded onto a train (as you suggest would happen), but -given what I've seen and heard of long-haul house movers doing- I find it much more likely that the house contents were loaded into a truck and that truck driven cross-country. The BLS claims that median pay for tractor-trailer drivers is ~$28/hour. Paying a little more than double that for a competent pack, load, haul and unload seems fair to me. > ...shipping a 20-foot container over a very long distance does not cost nearly as much. Now, how much does getting your packed belongings into that container, getting the container to where it can be loaded up on the conveyance, then getting it to where you can get your belongings out of the container, and your belongings into your house cost? Do keep in mind that there are a whole bunch of places that absolutely would not permit you to drop a twenty-foot steel shipping container out on the street for an extended period of time, and others who won't let you do that without a permit. [0] I'm fudging the numbers a bit because I can't be arsed to figure out how to work out the "blended" rate for "Five men for two days to pack/load and unload and one man for two days on the road".
crazygringo 1y ago
Seeing as the move took "a few days" it is presumably across the country. Maybe you have better things to do with your time than spend days driving a truck. And a neighbor might help you move a single couch. But I sure don't have any neighbors who will spend an entire day doing back-breaking work bringing sofas and heavy bookcases and bed frames down narrow stairs, quite possibly injuring themselves in the process because it's not something they do regularly. But I love that you live in a world where serious hard labor is freely provided by your neighbors -- neighbors who will never see you again since you're leaving! And that your family has no problem with you disappearing for days to drive a truck, using your vacation days to do so instead of to spend with them.

trial3 1y ago

your comment’s tone suggests you live alone. there are many sane answers to this that do not involve one’s salary at all: physical ability, distance, quantity of stuff, other demands on your time or, perhaps most of all, the time of people you are moving with. i personally am in a place where i still drive my own U-Hauls, but can very easily imagine the value of avoiding that amount of stress being worth just writing a huge check i also must point out the even brokest friends i’ve helped move at least sprung for pizza for everyone who helped

anovikov 1y ago
I don't live alone, and in general i'm not against the idea of someone doing it for a fee, but $14k!!! It's a fucking annual minimum wage. Also, as for driving a truck, sure it sucks driving a truck for days, but shipping a 20-foot container over a very long distance does not cost nearly as much. It's in the $1000-$2000 range. A 20-foot container should fit someone's all possessions. Someone charging $12K for packing and unpacking definitely rips people off, big time.
- simoncion 1y ago
  Assuming a three-day job and a three-man crew the math works out to: 14000/(24*3*3) 64.81481481481481 about sixty-five bucks an hour. [0] OP doesn't mention if the house was packed up into a container to be loaded onto a train (as you suggest would happen), but -given what I've seen and heard of long-haul house movers doing- I find it much more likely that the house contents were loaded into a truck and that truck driven cross-country. The BLS claims that median pay for tractor-trailer drivers is ~$28/hour. Paying a little more than double that for a competent pack, load, haul and unload seems fair to me. > ...shipping a 20-foot container over a very long distance does not cost nearly as much. Now, how much does getting your packed belongings into that container, getting the container to where it can be loaded up on the conveyance, then getting it to where you can get your belongings out of the container, and your belongings into your house cost? Do keep in mind that there are a whole bunch of places that absolutely would not permit you to drop a twenty-foot steel shipping container out on the street for an extended period of time, and others who won't let you do that without a permit. [0] I'm fudging the numbers a bit because I can't be arsed to figure out how to work out the "blended" rate for "Five men for two days to pack/load and unload and one man for two days on the road".

crazygringo 1y ago

Seeing as the move took "a few days" it is presumably across the country. Maybe you have better things to do with your time than spend days driving a truck. And a neighbor might help you move a single couch. But I sure don't have any neighbors who will spend an entire day doing back-breaking work bringing sofas and heavy bookcases and bed frames down narrow stairs, quite possibly injuring themselves in the process because it's not something they do regularly. But I love that you live in a world where serious hard labor is freely provided by your neighbors -- neighbors who will never see you again since you're leaving! And that your family has no problem with you disappearing for days to drive a truck, using your vacation days to do so instead of to spend with them.