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How is a bureaucracy not required when the solution involves coordinated multinational logistics to produce and distribute hundreds of millions of flies?
by danso 1y ago
How is a bureaucracy not required when the solution involves coordinated multinational logistics to produce and distribute hundreds of millions of flies?
- johnisgood 1y agoYeah because bureaucracy (in its original term) is efficient at that. /s Wait a couple of years, and then maybe.
- kergonath 1y agoThis is surreal. The evil bureaucracy has successfully been doing it since the 1960s. It worked. And yes, it was efficient. Now, the problem is that if you alienate your neighbours they stop wanting to play nice. Also, bureaucracies do not work when you fire civil servants indiscriminately. It’s not the bureaucracy doing this, it’s the guy who told you that the country would work better without it.
- johnisgood 1y agoThe Government is inherently ineffective, and bureaucracy, as a term, pretty much says so. Plenty of evidence has been piling up with regarding to it. Feel free to down-vote, does not make your Nanny State any more efficient. :D You should read more about economics. I can give you resources.
- Eisenstein 1y agoHow did you come to your conclusions?
- johnisgood 1y agohttps://mises.org/library/book/lessons-young-economist https://mises.org/library/book/lessons-young-economist https://mises.org/mises-daily/myth-efficient-government-service https://mises.org/mises-daily/myth-efficient-government-serv... https://mises.org/journal-libertarian-studies/austrian-theory-efficiency-and-role-government-0 https://mises.org/journal-libertarian-studies/austrian-theor... https://mises.org/library/book/bureaucracy https://mises.org/library/book/bureaucracy
- Eisenstein 1y agoI didn't ask for resources backing up your conclusions, I asked how you arrived at them.
- johnisgood 1y agoThrough rational and critical thinking and personal experiences? I am not sure I understand your question. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43888836 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43888836
- Eisenstein 1y agoI see from your link that you mentioned a specific: that court takes a long time. What do you think the optimal system would be in that specific case? If you could design it, how would it look? It doesn't have to be realistic, but like an ideal system of justice. Are there any precedents you think are ideal or is there something you have in mind that would make it work better?
- johnisgood 1y agoI think the answer to this cannot be summed up in a comment, and what would I even gain by really doing so? Most likely nothing. If you think bureaucracy does not slow things down or is not slow, God speed. I hope you will never have to directly get into situations that involve it.
- Eisenstein 1y agoI am trying to determine if you just hate something and want to destroy it without considering the effect it would have, or if you have actually put effort into thinking about how to solve the problem that the thing you hate is trying (perhaps poorly) to solve. If you haven't thought about the consequences of tearing down parts of the system and what will replace those parts, than I think the entirety of your conclusions about this matter should be disregarded and I think most everyone reading this would agree.
- Barrin92 1y ago>bureaucracy, as a term, pretty much says so. Bureaucracy, as per Weber, is nothing but the rational and impersonal administration of resources and exists in any sufficiently large institution, private or public. It is in fact so efficient that it is omnipresent to the point of being the defining feature of modernity, having replaced familial, personal or arbitrary rule. Whether it's the old aristocracies of Europe replaced by the Prussian state, workshops replaced by Fordist factories, Guanxi in China replaced by modern administration, all of that is simply introduction of formal management and organization, i.e. bureaucracy.
- johnisgood 1y agoI did not mean in it in the dictionary sense, and please do not let us delude ourselves that bureaucracy has much to do with what the dictionary says so.
- disgruntledphd2 1y agoIn what sense did you mean it, then?
- johnisgood 1y agoI mean, have you ever had experiences with the Government? Have you been to court? Do you know how long everything takes? It speaks volumes. It took 3 years (!) here for someone to be finally given a sentence who almost killed 3 people (and it is on CCTV). This is just one instance, there are zillions.
- giardini 1y agohow big is a zillion?
- johnisgood 1y agoVery big.