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Statistically nobody is using valkey.
by kiitos 1y ago
Statistically nobody is using valkey.
- echoangle 1y agoAre there usage stats available? How do you know this?
- potatocoffee 1y ago[flagged]
- Osiris 1y agoMy guess is most people are using Redis via cloud providers. Did any cloud providers switch away from Redis?
- andenacitelli 1y agoAWS supports Valkey for Elasticache, and they actually bill it 33% cheaper. We use it and it works well.
- pjm331 1y agoAWS Elasticache gave a nice discount to switch to valkey w/ 1 button click no downtime migration path
- aweiher 1y agoValKey is cheaper in AWS than Reddis
- echoangle 1y agoWasn’t the whole point (or one of the major ones) of Valkey so that AWS could use it?
- reconditerose 1y agoMy guess is they are making it up. AWS has no public information, but there are some high profile customers that have migrated https://aws.amazon.com/elasticache/customers/ https://aws.amazon.com/elasticache/customers/.
- shaky-carrousel 1y agoWithout sources, it's a "statistically worthless" comment :)
- achillean 1y agoBased on Internet-accessible services the number of Valkey servers is low (~120): https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=valkey_version+port%3A6379#overview https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=valkey_version+port%3A... Here's a chart of all Redis-compatible services (~55,000): https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=port%3A6379+redis_version#overview https://trends.shodan.io/search?query=port%3A6379+redis_vers...
- echoangle 1y agoAnd how representative are publicly accessible redis/valkey instances for redis/valkey usage in general? And can shodan even differentiate Redis from a Valkey instance setup in a backwards-compatible way without being able to authenticate?
- achillean 1y agoIn absolute numbers probably not highly representative but the relative numbers are meaningful to measure adoption. And no, it requires the user to disable authentication in order to get the service details to differentiate between Redis and Valkey. But again, you can compare unauthenticated Redis to unauthenticated Valkey to see how the percentages are changing over time.
- teaearlgraycold 1y agoI don't know about valkey but I got word Nvidia was switching away from Redis.
- cyrnel 1y agoAmazon really encourages valkey in the elasticache dashboard. There's a banner advertising lower prices and it's listed first in the dropdown when you go to create one. Default settings do have power.
- kiitos 1y agoSure, but the impact of new customers and their decisions take a long time before they impact net statistics. All evidence I can find, regardless of domain or context, suggests Redis vs. valkey marketshare is something around a 99%/1% difference.
- rustc 1y ago> All evidence I can find, regardless of domain or context, suggests Redis vs. valkey marketshare is something around a 99%/1% difference. What evidence did you find?
- kiitos 1y ago[flagged]
- Tostino 1y agoWhy/how would you expect an LLM to know that info?
- foobarchu 1y agoLLMs are not a source.
- joshuaturner 1y agobut what if they confirm my priors?
- kiitos 1y ago
- rmsaksida 1y agoI've been using Valkey simply because after I updated to the latest Fedora version, it dropped redis and pointed me to Valkey instead. I assume as more distros do this and more people update their systems, the Valkey user base will grow. But perhaps with the AGPL redis that will no longer be the case.
- shaky-carrousel 1y agoYeah, all the open source distributions and most open source projects switching to valkey must be "nobody".
- _msw_ 1y agoIf you use the latest versions of Redis, you are benefiting from the continued efforts of the Valkey development community. [1] This is Open Source working well. Unfortunately, the reverse flow does not work. [1] https://github.com/redis/redis/pull/13638 https://github.com/redis/redis/pull/13638
- graton 1y agoI wonder how that works legally with CLA. If the person who originally wrote the code is not the one who signs off the PR. I assume the lawyers have signed off on it. Did they maintain the author's copyright notice as required by BSD-3?
- darkwater 1y agoWell, now that Redis is once again Open Source and even Free Software, that should change.
- jzb 1y agoThat kind of assertion really needs some backup or it's just noise. I'll be honest and say that I have no idea what the usage stats for Valkey are -- and it may be that it's a drop in the bucket compared to Redis. But I don't know. Can you back this up or is this just your gut feeling?
- oweiler 1y agoYet. It's a drop-in replacement, and both faster and cheaper.
- lurking_swe 1y agowhat do you mean? i work at a FAANG-adjacent company and our entire engineering org was told to switch to valkey, with an internal deadline from ops. My team supports a public facing service and we made the switch 2 months ago. It was pretty easy, a small config change and some performance testing to make sure it worked well at scale. Maybe nobody is talking about it online but some people have definitely switched.