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> it'll probably take a year for the FOSS community to implement and digest it completely The local community seems to have converged on a few wrappers: Open W

> it'll probably take a year for the FOSS community to implement and digest it completely The local community seems to have converged on a few wrappers: Open WebUI (general-purpose), LM Studio (proprietary), and SillyTavern (for role-playing). Now that llama.cpp has an OpenAI-compatible server (llama-server), there's a lot more options to choose from. I've noticed there really aren't many active FOSS wrappers these days - most of them have either been abandoned or aren't being released with the frequency we saw when OpenAI API first launched. So it would be awesome if you could share your wrapper with us at some point.

trc001 1y ago
Oobabooga is still good as a Swiss Army knife sort of wrapper for a single user trying out new models
pzo 1y ago
I think OP means that FOSS didn't digest many multimodals of phi4-mini-multimodal such as Audio Input (STT) and Audio Output (TTS), also Image Input also not much supported in many FOSS.
- thenameless7741 1y ago
  AFAIK, Phi-4-multimodal doesn't support TTS, but I understand OP's point. The recent Qwen's release is an excellent example of model providers collaborating with the local community (which include inference engine developers and model quantizers?). It would be nice if this collaboration extended to wrapper developers as well, so that end-users can enjoy a great UX from day one of any model release.
  - refulgentis 1y ago
    Hah, ty, I badly misunderstood the release materials
loufe 1y ago
Kobold.cpp is still my preference for a gui. Single portable exe with good flexibility in configuration if you want it, no need if not.
joshstrange 1y ago
I've been happier with LibreChat over Open WebUI. Mostly because I wasn't a fan of the `pipelines` stuff in Open WebUI and lack of MCP support (probably has changed now?). But then I don't love how LibreChat wants to push its (expensive) code runner service.

trc001 1y ago

Oobabooga is still good as a Swiss Army knife sort of wrapper for a single user trying out new models

pzo 1y ago

I think OP means that FOSS didn't digest many multimodals of phi4-mini-multimodal such as Audio Input (STT) and Audio Output (TTS), also Image Input also not much supported in many FOSS.

thenameless7741 1y ago
AFAIK, Phi-4-multimodal doesn't support TTS, but I understand OP's point. The recent Qwen's release is an excellent example of model providers collaborating with the local community (which include inference engine developers and model quantizers?). It would be nice if this collaboration extended to wrapper developers as well, so that end-users can enjoy a great UX from day one of any model release.
- refulgentis 1y ago
  Hah, ty, I badly misunderstood the release materials

loufe 1y ago

Kobold.cpp is still my preference for a gui. Single portable exe with good flexibility in configuration if you want it, no need if not.

joshstrange 1y ago

I've been happier with LibreChat over Open WebUI. Mostly because I wasn't a fan of the `pipelines` stuff in Open WebUI and lack of MCP support (probably has changed now?). But then I don't love how LibreChat wants to push its (expensive) code runner service.