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This seems to be a very common response. I definitely believe it but Teams seems ok to me - can make video calls and do text chats. That is all I need it to do,

This seems to be a very common response. I definitely believe it but Teams seems ok to me - can make video calls and do text chats. That is all I need it to do, really. Maybe I just haven't used Zoom enough to know what I am missing.

phatskat 1y ago
I think it’s less that you’re missing something Zoom does better, it’s mostly that Teams is a poor replacement for any calendar, messaging app, or video call service. It does those things “fine”, but I wouldn’t say it does any of them _well_.
duxup 1y ago
I actually don't like zoom either ;) Video conferencing for me Teams isn't the issue as much as it is a compromise when it comes to everything else.
Aeolun 1y ago
Having used better solutions for those things in the past, being forced to use Teams feels like a significant step back.
- 9dev 1y ago
  I miss slack so much. Their attention to detail makes for a much more enjoyable product, paying for something we get for free with 365… still. I don’t know if Microsoft should be content with a product that’s so awful people literally only use it because of network effects.
  - mulderc 1y ago
    I always found slack to be sort of awful and hated it. Then I used teams and understood that slack was actually a decent version of such apps.
    - throwaway7783 1y ago
      Curious to know what's awful about slack specifically. For me, I don't like to get lost in a bazillion channels, pins are not global (`saved for later` is), there is no personal message queues etc. Do you have a laundry list?
      - mulderc 1y ago
        Not so much a laundry listening more that it feels wrong as it is clearly an electron app and doesn’t feel like a native app and chooses to have its own conventions over embracing feeling like a native app. I think that causes some of the issues you are mentioning. Now I don’t personally see any communication app like slack that is any better than it. They all sort of suck but I feel like I had a better time with IRC apps back in the day than I do with modern communication apps.
        Capricorn2481 1y ago
        I just pin it in my browser now. I don't really get anything out of using the app version.
        mulderc 1y ago
        That is an even worse experience IMHO.
        Capricorn2481 1y ago
        What? How? It's the exact same experience, but without needing to run a heavy electron app. These are...identical apps. That's the point of packaging with electron.
        mulderc 1y ago
        Because it is now a browser tab instead of a stand alone app. Running things in the browser is even worse that electron imho.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
  RIP HipChat; we don't know how good we had it.

phatskat 1y ago

I think it’s less that you’re missing something Zoom does better, it’s mostly that Teams is a poor replacement for any calendar, messaging app, or video call service. It does those things “fine”, but I wouldn’t say it does any of them _well_.

duxup 1y ago

I actually don't like zoom either ;) Video conferencing for me Teams isn't the issue as much as it is a compromise when it comes to everything else.

Aeolun 1y ago

Having used better solutions for those things in the past, being forced to use Teams feels like a significant step back.

9dev 1y ago
I miss slack so much. Their attention to detail makes for a much more enjoyable product, paying for something we get for free with 365… still. I don’t know if Microsoft should be content with a product that’s so awful people literally only use it because of network effects.
- mulderc 1y ago
  I always found slack to be sort of awful and hated it. Then I used teams and understood that slack was actually a decent version of such apps.
  - throwaway7783 1y ago
    Curious to know what's awful about slack specifically. For me, I don't like to get lost in a bazillion channels, pins are not global (`saved for later` is), there is no personal message queues etc. Do you have a laundry list?
    - mulderc 1y ago
      Not so much a laundry listening more that it feels wrong as it is clearly an electron app and doesn’t feel like a native app and chooses to have its own conventions over embracing feeling like a native app. I think that causes some of the issues you are mentioning. Now I don’t personally see any communication app like slack that is any better than it. They all sort of suck but I feel like I had a better time with IRC apps back in the day than I do with modern communication apps.
      - Capricorn2481 1y ago
        I just pin it in my browser now. I don't really get anything out of using the app version.
        mulderc 1y ago
        That is an even worse experience IMHO.
        Capricorn2481 1y ago
        What? How? It's the exact same experience, but without needing to run a heavy electron app. These are...identical apps. That's the point of packaging with electron.
        mulderc 1y ago
        Because it is now a browser tab instead of a stand alone app. Running things in the browser is even worse that electron imho.
GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
RIP HipChat; we don't know how good we had it.