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Have you listened to the guy talk? There isn't a comprehensible thought in there, and there hasn't been for years. He's old, older than Biden was when he starte

Have you listened to the guy talk? There isn't a comprehensible thought in there, and there hasn't been for years. He's old, older than Biden was when he started his term, and probably suffering from dementia. edit: The pro trump voting bloc showed up. Comment went from +2 to -3 in a minute. This chain will probably be flagged to death within the hour.

thejazzman 1y ago
I used to believe this. Now I believe we're supposed to believe this, and continue ignoring how calculated this mess actually is... and it's always too late when enough people catch on :(
- jillyboel 1y ago
  I'm sure there are competent people whispering evil things in his ear, he appears very easy to influence. Just look at how he keeps flip flopping on Ukraine every time he talks 1-on-1 with Zelenskyy versus when he gets back to being surrounded by his cronies. That doesn't make Trump any less demented.
  - InsideOutSanta 1y ago
    >I'm sure there are competent people whispering evil things in his ear They have a guy who can make the stock go up or down with a tweet, and usually seems to agree with the last thing he's heard. It's not difficult to see how this could be exploited for financial gain.
    - cmrdporcupine 1y ago
      FWIW he seems to be losing this power. The last two weeks it feels like the market seems to be treating his emissions more like "whatever you say, old man" than it was last month. Now it's just about the concrete numbers and "wait and see." It all looks a lot higher right now than I imagine makes any sense, but you know what they say about the market and irrtionality...
      - ceejayoz 1y ago
        Some of that is the market doing the "la la la la la can't hear you!" thing, though. Which won't make the problem go away.
        cmrdporcupine 1y ago
        I suspect it's more... routing around the manipulation. If you have people basically obviously doing deliberate dump&pump&dump&pump loops... that only happens a few times before -- on the aggregate -- it gets averaged out by people figuring out that's what is happening. There's plenty of people who are like myself... moved into cash just before Stupid Day, and then have been buying red, selling green every time He has a Nocturnal Idiot Emission / Repent cycle. I made a little bit of money, which is better than losing it... and now I'm just... waiting. There's likely millions of people like this.
        ceejayoz 1y ago
        Some of both. JPMorgan Chase's Jamie Dimon went from "get over it" to "oh fuck a recession" in a matter of weeks. https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/business/jamie-dimon-tariff-uncertainty/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/business/jamie-dimon-tariff-u...
        cmrdporcupine 1y ago
        Oh yeah for sure, I think we'll shortly hit the "... And Find Out" phase where the Reality TV Show becomes very unpleasant Reality
bsimpson 1y ago
FWIW, Bill Maher met him, and said his public persona is an act.
- jillyboel 1y ago
  This isn't even about how much of an asshole Trump is. It's about how he literally cannot string a sentence together.
- SpicyLemonZest 1y ago
  It's not worth anything. I don't know where people get this idea that someone's "real" persona consists only of the things they say in intimate private settings. A guy who runs around saying things he knows aren't true and calling people names is a liar and a bully, even if he understands himself to be playing some kind of role or acts politely in 1:1 conversations with Bill Maher.
- mgkimsal 1y ago
  It might be that his private persona is an act. Why is that not a possibility?
  - echoangle 1y ago
    Depending on the personae (is that a word?), it would be pretty clear, no? If one is really stupid and one is brilliant, how would the brilliant one be an act? If you can act brilliant, you are brilliant.
    - mgkimsal 1y ago
      Trump seems to be a stupid person's ideal of what 'brilliance' is. So... his acting as brilliant is their version of brilliant, regardless of anything else. He is their alternative fact.
      - cratermoon 1y ago
        Also the weakling's idea of tough guy and the poor guy's ideal of a rich man.
sam_goody 1y ago
I didn't say he is rational or even comprehensible - I said that he believes everyone is out to get him, and that explains the rushing way he acts.
fuzzfactor 1y ago
The only reason he was the least bit acceptable to begin with is that Biden was even older. But after Biden dropped out, nobody seemed to notice any more.
- TylerE 1y ago
  That’s because the GOP is mostly as bunch of greedy hypocrites who will say anything to gain power. They aren’t actually thinking or using logic or acting in good faith.

thejazzman 1y ago

I used to believe this. Now I believe we're supposed to believe this, and continue ignoring how calculated this mess actually is... and it's always too late when enough people catch on :(

jillyboel 1y ago
I'm sure there are competent people whispering evil things in his ear, he appears very easy to influence. Just look at how he keeps flip flopping on Ukraine every time he talks 1-on-1 with Zelenskyy versus when he gets back to being surrounded by his cronies. That doesn't make Trump any less demented.
- InsideOutSanta 1y ago
  >I'm sure there are competent people whispering evil things in his ear They have a guy who can make the stock go up or down with a tweet, and usually seems to agree with the last thing he's heard. It's not difficult to see how this could be exploited for financial gain.
  - cmrdporcupine 1y ago
    FWIW he seems to be losing this power. The last two weeks it feels like the market seems to be treating his emissions more like "whatever you say, old man" than it was last month. Now it's just about the concrete numbers and "wait and see." It all looks a lot higher right now than I imagine makes any sense, but you know what they say about the market and irrtionality...
    - ceejayoz 1y ago
      Some of that is the market doing the "la la la la la can't hear you!" thing, though. Which won't make the problem go away.
      - cmrdporcupine 1y ago
        I suspect it's more... routing around the manipulation. If you have people basically obviously doing deliberate dump&pump&dump&pump loops... that only happens a few times before -- on the aggregate -- it gets averaged out by people figuring out that's what is happening. There's plenty of people who are like myself... moved into cash just before Stupid Day, and then have been buying red, selling green every time He has a Nocturnal Idiot Emission / Repent cycle. I made a little bit of money, which is better than losing it... and now I'm just... waiting. There's likely millions of people like this.
        ceejayoz 1y ago
        Some of both. JPMorgan Chase's Jamie Dimon went from "get over it" to "oh fuck a recession" in a matter of weeks. https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/business/jamie-dimon-tariff-uncertainty/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/12/business/jamie-dimon-tariff-u...
        cmrdporcupine 1y ago
        Oh yeah for sure, I think we'll shortly hit the "... And Find Out" phase where the Reality TV Show becomes very unpleasant Reality

bsimpson 1y ago

FWIW, Bill Maher met him, and said his public persona is an act.

jillyboel 1y ago
This isn't even about how much of an asshole Trump is. It's about how he literally cannot string a sentence together.
SpicyLemonZest 1y ago
It's not worth anything. I don't know where people get this idea that someone's "real" persona consists only of the things they say in intimate private settings. A guy who runs around saying things he knows aren't true and calling people names is a liar and a bully, even if he understands himself to be playing some kind of role or acts politely in 1:1 conversations with Bill Maher.
mgkimsal 1y ago
It might be that his private persona is an act. Why is that not a possibility?
- echoangle 1y ago
  Depending on the personae (is that a word?), it would be pretty clear, no? If one is really stupid and one is brilliant, how would the brilliant one be an act? If you can act brilliant, you are brilliant.
  - mgkimsal 1y ago
    Trump seems to be a stupid person's ideal of what 'brilliance' is. So... his acting as brilliant is their version of brilliant, regardless of anything else. He is their alternative fact.
    - cratermoon 1y ago
      Also the weakling's idea of tough guy and the poor guy's ideal of a rich man.

sam_goody 1y ago

I didn't say he is rational or even comprehensible - I said that he believes everyone is out to get him, and that explains the rushing way he acts.

fuzzfactor 1y ago

The only reason he was the least bit acceptable to begin with is that Biden was even older. But after Biden dropped out, nobody seemed to notice any more.

TylerE 1y ago
That’s because the GOP is mostly as bunch of greedy hypocrites who will say anything to gain power. They aren’t actually thinking or using logic or acting in good faith.