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If you ask me this has more to do with JS becoming the lingua franca of web development and less to do with making programming as easy as possible. Case in poi

by JVIDEL 14y ago

If you ask me this has more to do with JS becoming the lingua franca of web development and less to do with making programming as easy as possible. Case in point, recently some chick from highschool asked me where she could learn to code, so I pointed her to some Scheme tuts, nothing too complex since she requested something as easy as possible. ....then she writes back asking if "this is what jquery uses". I say "no", she gets upset and ask me "what the hell is this for then?" Long story short: for a lot of people out there is not about learning how to code but learn-X-to-do-Y no more no less...

cshesse 14y ago
If you're not learning how to code to do something useful with it, why learn to code?
- hackinthebochs 14y ago
  There's some of us out there who enjoy coding for its own sake. Coding is a pure form of problem-solving. It doesn't necessarily matter what the problem is you're solving, just that you get a certain intellectual satisfaction out of the process. I must be one of the few that coded linked-lists and string containers in high school instead of silly text games :)
  - jason3 14y ago
    Fuck you.
i_cannot_hack 14y ago
Why did you send her Scheme tutorials if she asked for something as simple as possible? Lisp is generally thought of as a very unintuitive language. I think Python would have been a much better choice, considering what she asked for.
e12e 14y ago
That, and that Self (which javascript pretty much is a version of) -- is a step up from Smalltalk. Add to that the fact that it is actually available every where (unlike, python, lisp, smalltalk...) -- and I think it makes perfect sense. If you're going to ask people to download something, I still think Smalltalk is a nice alternative -- and it has been for a while: http://www.atariarchives.org/bcc1/showpage.php?page=61 http://www.atariarchives.org/bcc1/showpage.php?page=61

by JVIDEL 14y ago

cshesse 14y ago

If you're not learning how to code to do something useful with it, why learn to code?

hackinthebochs 14y ago
There's some of us out there who enjoy coding for its own sake. Coding is a pure form of problem-solving. It doesn't necessarily matter what the problem is you're solving, just that you get a certain intellectual satisfaction out of the process. I must be one of the few that coded linked-lists and string containers in high school instead of silly text games :)
- jason3 14y ago
  Fuck you.

i_cannot_hack 14y ago

Why did you send her Scheme tutorials if she asked for something as simple as possible? Lisp is generally thought of as a very unintuitive language. I think Python would have been a much better choice, considering what she asked for.

e12e 14y ago

That, and that Self (which javascript pretty much is a version of) -- is a step up from Smalltalk. Add to that the fact that it is actually available every where (unlike, python, lisp, smalltalk...) -- and I think it makes perfect sense. If you're going to ask people to download something, I still think Smalltalk is a nice alternative -- and it has been for a while: http://www.atariarchives.org/bcc1/showpage.php?page=61 http://www.atariarchives.org/bcc1/showpage.php?page=61