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Only AI enthusiasts know about Grok, and only some dedicated subset of fans are advocating for it. Meanwhile even my 97 year old grandfather heard about ChatGPT
by spiderfarmer 2y ago
Only AI enthusiasts know about Grok, and only some dedicated subset of fans are advocating for it. Meanwhile even my 97 year old grandfather heard about ChatGPT.
- bilbo0s 2y agoThis. Only on HN does ChatGPT somehow fear losing customers to Grok. Until Grok works out how to market to my mother, or at least make my mother aware that it exists, taking ChatGPT customers ain't happening.
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- brigandish 2y agoFrom another AI (whatever DuckDuckGo is using): > As of early 2025, X (formerly Twitter) has approximately 586 million active monthly users. The platform continues to grow, with a significant portion of its user base located in the United States and Japan. Whatever portion of those is active are surely aware of Grok.
- cubefox 2y agoThat could be just an AI hallucination.
- brigandish 1y agoYes it could, and we could be sceptical of any source, quite rightly, but to be sceptical without any further investigation or reasoning would be just as wasteful as blindly trusting a source. Which source would you prefer?
- ForHackernews 2y agomost of them are bots. I guess their own LLMs are probably aware of Grok, so technically correct.
- decremental 2y agoThis is what the kids call cope.
- Sharlin 2y agoIf hundreds of millions of real people are aware of Grok (which is dubious), then billions of people are aware of ChatGPT. If you ask a bunch of random people on the street whether they’ve heard of a) ChatGPT and b) Grok, what do you expect the results to be?
- dmd 2y agoThat depends. Is the street in SoMa?
- testfrequency 2y agoGay bears prefer Claude though Gotta head to pac heights to find any grok users (probably)
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- bilbo0s 2y agoYeah. I got news for you, most women my mother's age out here in flyover country also don't use X. So even if everyone on X knows of Grok's existence, which they don't, it wouldn't move the needle at all on a lot of these mass market segments. Because X is not used by the mass market. It's a tech bro political jihadi wannabe influencer hell hole of a digital ghetto.
- brigandish 1y agoThat's a very US-centric comment.
- skywhopper 2y agoGood grief, do not use LLMs to find this sort of statistic.
- brigandish 1y agoWhy ever not?
- numpad0 2y agoThey are cargoculting. Almost literally. It's MO for Musk companies. They might call it open discussion and startup style rapid iteration approach, but they aren't getting it. Their interpretation of it is just collective hallucination under assumption that adults come to change diapers.
- voidspark 1y agoOpenAI was cofounded and funded by Musk for years before they released ChatGPT.
- GrumpyNl 2y agoI see more and more GROK used responses on X, so its picking up.
- bigbuppo 2y agoWhy would anyone want to use an ex social media site?
- Shekelphile 2y agoGrok could capture the entire 'market' and OpenAI would never feel it, because all grok is under the hood is a giant API bill to OpenAI.
- indigodaddy 2y agoIt is? Anyone have further information?
- voidspark 2y agoThey are competing with OpenAI, not outsourcing. https://x.ai/colossus https://x.ai/colossus
- indigodaddy 1y agoThey say no one has come close to building as big an AI computing cluster... What about Groq's infra, wouldn't that be as big or bigger, or is that essentially too different of an infrastructure to be able to compare between?
- voidspark 1y agoGroq is for inferencing, not training.
- indigodaddy 1y agoAh I see, thank you.
- voidspark 1y agoNvidia CEO said he had never seen anyone build a data center that quickly. They were power constrained and brought in a fleet of diesel generators to power it. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/elon-musks-new-worlds-fastest-ai-data-center-is-powered-by-massive-portable-power-generators-to-sidestep-electricity-supply-constraints https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell... Brute force to catch up to the frontier and no expense spared.
- admiralrohan 2y agoFirst mover advantage. This won't change. Same as Xerox vs photocopy. I use Grok myself but talk about ChatGPT is my blog articles when I write something related to LLM.
- rob74 2y agoThat's... not really an advertisement for your blog, is it?
- admiralrohan 1y agoWhat else am I supposed to say?
- Eisenstein 2y agoFirst mover advantage tends to be a curse for modern tech. Of the giant tech companies, only Apple can claim to be a first mover -- they all took the crown from someone else.
- eru 2y agoApple was a first mover many decades ago, but they lost so much ground around the lat 90s early 2000s, that they might as well be a late mover after that.
- Miraste 2y agoAnd Apple's business model since the 90s revolves entirely around not being the first mover.
- admiralrohan 1y agoYes tech moves fast but human psychology won't change, we act on perception.
- jimbokun 2y ago> Only AI enthusiasts know about Grok And more and more people on the right side of the political spectrum, who trust Elon's AI to be less "woke" than the competition.
- zmgsabst 2y agoFor what it’s worth, ChatGPT has a personality that’s surprisingly “based” and supportive of MAGA. I’m not sure if that’s because the model updated, they’ve shunted my account onto a tuned personality, or my own change in prompting — but it’s a notable deviation from early interactions.
- eru 2y agoMight just be sycophancy? In some earlier experiments, I found it hard to find a government intervention that ChatGPT didn't like. Tariffs, taxes, redistribution, minimum wages, rent control, etc.
- int_19h 2y agoIf you want to see what the model bias actually is, tell it that it's in charge and then ask it what to do.
- benregenspan 2y agoIn doing so, you might be effectively asking it to play-act as an authoritarian leader, which will not give you a good view of whatever its default bias is either.
- eru 1y agoOr you might just hit a canned response a la: 'if I were in charge, I would outlaw pineapple on pizza, and then call elections and hand over the reins.' That's a fun thing to say, but doesn't necessarily tell you anything real about someone (whether human or model).
- dingnuts 2y agonot true, I know at least one right wing normie Boomer that uses Grok because it's the one Elon made.
- kyle-rb 2y agoI don't think that's true. There are a lot of people on Twitter who keep accidentally clicking that annoying button that Elon attached to every single tweet.