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api 2y ago
It's not Musk fetishism. It's network effects. Most people hate X and hated Twitter but people use them because people use them. This should show people just how powerful network effects are. They are legitimately a force of nature.
- gchamonlive 2y ago
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  - FredPret 2y ago
    Saying things you know to be untrue will not win you political friends in the long run; quite the opposite: it’ll cast doubt on every other opinion you have
    - gchamonlive 2y ago
      Only for those who don't understand sarcasm or other forms of figure of speech and art in general. For those I'll prefer distance anyway, so it's a win-win.
      - FredPret 2y ago
        It's hyperbole, not sarcasm, and it's an effective way to neuter yourself politically. Have you ever rolled your eyes at someone going on and on about communists in the deep state?
        gchamonlive 2y ago
        Ok thanks for the heads up. > Have you ever rolled your eyes at someone going on and on about communists in the deep state? Not really, I'm indifferent to those that I'm not interested in what they have to say.
    - mrguyorama 2y ago
      That's funny, Fascism has never struggled to gain followers while lying about everything. In fact, an explicit abandonment of truth and reality is inherent in most Fascist regimes, and is also prominent in other types of cult of personality authoritarianism. Maybe outright lies are more effective at getting followers than you suggest. That being a distasteful reality doesn't make it incorrect.
      - FredPret 2y ago
        There will always be a number of loons willing to support any fringe idea you might mention. The key is: will the bulk of the people, who are in the center, go for it? And the answer is: if they perceive the idea as being cynical, or purposely deceptive, then no. Even if politicians temporarily get away with lies, every lie does long-term damage to a movement. The truth will out.
- frank_nitti 2y ago
  I strongly agree, and to me this supports the argument for heavier regulation (or any really)
pixxel 2y ago
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api 2y ago

It's not Musk fetishism. It's network effects. Most people hate X and hated Twitter but people use them because people use them. This should show people just how powerful network effects are. They are legitimately a force of nature.

gchamonlive 2y ago
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- FredPret 2y ago
  Saying things you know to be untrue will not win you political friends in the long run; quite the opposite: it’ll cast doubt on every other opinion you have
  - gchamonlive 2y ago
    Only for those who don't understand sarcasm or other forms of figure of speech and art in general. For those I'll prefer distance anyway, so it's a win-win.
    - FredPret 2y ago
      It's hyperbole, not sarcasm, and it's an effective way to neuter yourself politically. Have you ever rolled your eyes at someone going on and on about communists in the deep state?
      - gchamonlive 2y ago
        Ok thanks for the heads up. > Have you ever rolled your eyes at someone going on and on about communists in the deep state? Not really, I'm indifferent to those that I'm not interested in what they have to say.
  - mrguyorama 2y ago
    That's funny, Fascism has never struggled to gain followers while lying about everything. In fact, an explicit abandonment of truth and reality is inherent in most Fascist regimes, and is also prominent in other types of cult of personality authoritarianism. Maybe outright lies are more effective at getting followers than you suggest. That being a distasteful reality doesn't make it incorrect.
    - FredPret 2y ago
      There will always be a number of loons willing to support any fringe idea you might mention. The key is: will the bulk of the people, who are in the center, go for it? And the answer is: if they perceive the idea as being cynical, or purposely deceptive, then no. Even if politicians temporarily get away with lies, every lie does long-term damage to a movement. The truth will out.
frank_nitti 2y ago
I strongly agree, and to me this supports the argument for heavier regulation (or any really)

pixxel 2y ago

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