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> mmWave is phone vaporware Is it? I've definitely seen "5G UW" show up on my 15 Pro Max in the bay area. Att and Verizon are slowly expanding mmWave

by NavinF 1y ago

Scoundreller 1y ago
Get a non-US iPhone which doesn't support those: https://www.apple.com/iphone/cellular/ https://www.apple.com/iphone/cellular/
- NavinF 1y ago
  I like getting gbps on my phone. Everything syncs quickly including 4k60 videos
devmor 1y ago
I regularly see it in Atlanta in the big tech business areas (Buckhead, Midtown, etc) but it is hilariously bad. Whenever I notice my cellular data has regressed to 3G speeds and reliability, I look up at the network status and see “5G UW”. I don’t know if they deployed it without enough bandwidth on the trunk to handle all of the users or something else but I generally have to toggle airplane mode to drop back into 5G or LTE to get off of it.
- vachina 1y ago
  Ditto, I’ve disabled 5G entirely because it performs worse in high density areas compared to LTE.
delfinom 1y ago
"5G UW" is marketing bullshit by Verizon that they force cellphone makers to display. Basically it originally meant "mmWave" but was later revised to "mmWave or mid-band". You are probably seeing the mid-band due to the limitations of mmWave.
maxsilver 1y ago
"5G UW" is good service, but it's not usually mmWave. It's primarily mid-band stuff, usually Band n77 (3.7ghz C-Band) It's usually good, but that's primarily because Verizon is going a good-ish job (in Michigan, at least) of deploying it densely in smaller neighborhood/urban cell sites (2x to 3x site density over traditional PCS-spaced cell towers). It's basically Verizon's version of what Clear was supposed to be doing with WiMax. Notably, C-Band is not mmWave. mmWave bands start at like the 24.2ghz+, way way higher up the spectrum band. If your phone reads "5G UW", there's like a 95% chance you aren't on mmWave, you are on n77 / C-Band / 'mid-band'.

> mmWave is phone vaporware Is it? I've definitely seen "5G UW" show up on my 15 Pro Max in the bay area. Att and Verizon are slowly expanding mmWave

by NavinF 1y ago

> mmWave is phone vaporware Is it? I've definitely seen "5G UW" show up on my 15 Pro Max in the bay area. Att and Verizon are slowly expanding mmWave

Scoundreller 1y ago

Get a non-US iPhone which doesn't support those: https://www.apple.com/iphone/cellular/ https://www.apple.com/iphone/cellular/

NavinF 1y ago
I like getting gbps on my phone. Everything syncs quickly including 4k60 videos

devmor 1y ago

I regularly see it in Atlanta in the big tech business areas (Buckhead, Midtown, etc) but it is hilariously bad. Whenever I notice my cellular data has regressed to 3G speeds and reliability, I look up at the network status and see “5G UW”. I don’t know if they deployed it without enough bandwidth on the trunk to handle all of the users or something else but I generally have to toggle airplane mode to drop back into 5G or LTE to get off of it.

vachina 1y ago
Ditto, I’ve disabled 5G entirely because it performs worse in high density areas compared to LTE.

delfinom 1y ago

"5G UW" is marketing bullshit by Verizon that they force cellphone makers to display. Basically it originally meant "mmWave" but was later revised to "mmWave or mid-band". You are probably seeing the mid-band due to the limitations of mmWave.

maxsilver 1y ago

"5G UW" is good service, but it's not usually mmWave. It's primarily mid-band stuff, usually Band n77 (3.7ghz C-Band) It's usually good, but that's primarily because Verizon is going a good-ish job (in Michigan, at least) of deploying it densely in smaller neighborhood/urban cell sites (2x to 3x site density over traditional PCS-spaced cell towers). It's basically Verizon's version of what Clear was supposed to be doing with WiMax. Notably, C-Band is not mmWave. mmWave bands start at like the 24.2ghz+, way way higher up the spectrum band. If your phone reads "5G UW", there's like a 95% chance you aren't on mmWave, you are on n77 / C-Band / 'mid-band'.