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I'm pretty sure we saw LLMs in yesterday's thread about the judge. There were a lot of strange comments (stately worded and weird logic that were very LLM like,

I'm pretty sure we saw LLMs in yesterday's thread about the judge. There were a lot of strange comments (stately worded and weird logic that were very LLM like, not just dumb person like) and it wouldn't be surprising as it's an easy tool to weaponize chaos. I'm sure there were bots supporting many different positions. It even looks like some accounts were posting contradictions opinions

api 2y ago
If I wanted to just attack and destabilize society I'd have armies of bots supporting all the most divisive positions on all sides, as well as promoting incoherent and irrational positions. The idea is just to divide, confuse, "flood the zone with shit" as Bannon likes to say. It seems like people are actually not bad at noticing likely bots arguing against their favorite positions, but are blind to the possibility that there could be bots pretending to be on their side. The most corrosive might be bots pretending to be on your side but advocating subtilely wrong or unnecessarily divisive formulations of your ideas, which in turn are more likely to influence you because they seem to be on your side. Phrases come to mind like "vandalism of the discourse" and "intellectual terrorism" where the goal is not to promote one specific idea but to destroy the discourse as a whole. That certainly looks like the world we're living in.
- godelski 2y ago
  I remember seeing some reports around the BLM protests that claimed Russia organized both a protest and a counter protest via Facebook groups. Not sure how accurate (I believe it) but it certainly is an effective strategy. The old "Divide and conquer" strategy that's thousands of years old.
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3np 2y ago
The buried greens, yeah. I was guessing it was some meatpuppets I was arguing with after looking at account age and post history though. Still considered it worth the effort and trollfeeding to set the record straight for others and yeah, getting harder to tell the difference between puppets, zombies, and bots.

api 2y ago

If I wanted to just attack and destabilize society I'd have armies of bots supporting all the most divisive positions on all sides, as well as promoting incoherent and irrational positions. The idea is just to divide, confuse, "flood the zone with shit" as Bannon likes to say. It seems like people are actually not bad at noticing likely bots arguing against their favorite positions, but are blind to the possibility that there could be bots pretending to be on their side. The most corrosive might be bots pretending to be on your side but advocating subtilely wrong or unnecessarily divisive formulations of your ideas, which in turn are more likely to influence you because they seem to be on your side. Phrases come to mind like "vandalism of the discourse" and "intellectual terrorism" where the goal is not to promote one specific idea but to destroy the discourse as a whole. That certainly looks like the world we're living in.

godelski 2y ago
I remember seeing some reports around the BLM protests that claimed Russia organized both a protest and a counter protest via Facebook groups. Not sure how accurate (I believe it) but it certainly is an effective strategy. The old "Divide and conquer" strategy that's thousands of years old.
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3np 2y ago

The buried greens, yeah. I was guessing it was some meatpuppets I was arguing with after looking at account age and post history though. Still considered it worth the effort and trollfeeding to set the record straight for others and yeah, getting harder to tell the difference between puppets, zombies, and bots.