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The broader conversation is impossible to have. “What policies do we need to ensure due process without compromising the effectiveness of immigration enforcemen
by SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
The broader conversation is impossible to have. “What policies do we need to ensure due process without compromising the effectiveness of immigration enforcement?” Even trying to start the conversation feels like a troll, because when the system looks like it does today who’s going to concede the premise that immigration enforcement shouldn’t be compromised?
- tremon 2y agoYou're starting from an unverified assumption (the presumed ineffectiveness of immigration enforcement), that's maybe why it feels off to you. How is it ineffective, and why? Once you have answers to that, you can start the conversation about policy.
- SpicyLemonZest 2y agoThere's millions of people currently in the US who aren't authorized to be in the US. 11 million, if you believe Pew's estimate (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-k...). I'm not sure how it's possible to avoid the conclusion that immigration enforcement isn't effective. Why it's ineffective is, again, something that's been impossible to research for as long as I've been paying attention to immigration. I genuinely don't know where I could go to get answers. Other than a couple people spinning evidence-free conspiracy theories about their political opponents, nobody seems interested in analyzing it.