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I am overwhelmed with the thought of nearly 82 thousand bars within a country roughly the size of Ohio.
by notesinthefield 1y ago
I am overwhelmed with the thought of nearly 82 thousand bars within a country roughly the size of Ohio.
- dyauspitr 1y agoNYC that is like 20 miles across has 11,000 locations that serve alcohol.
- zeckalpha 1y agoHow many bars do you expect are in Ohio?
- fakeBeerDrinker 1y agoLess than 40,000
- zamadatix 1y agoOne would hope with 5x fewer people!
- fakeBeerDrinker 1y agoI think it’s far fewer, probably under 5,000 if we are really talking about “bars” and not any ole liquor licensed establishment such as a restaurant…
- jhalstead 1y agoIt seems like you're pretty close with that guess. https://www.ibisworld.com/us/industry/ohio/bars-nightclubs/12919/ https://www.ibisworld.com/us/industry/ohio/bars-nightclubs/1... (2025) estimates there are about 3,000 "bars and nightclubs" in Ohio. And https://vinepair.com/articles/map-states-with-most-bars/ https://vinepair.com/articles/map-states-with-most-bars/ (2022) estimates there are 1800 bars in Ohio, apparently placing it in the Top 10 of states with the most bars.
- lifthrasiir 1y agoThat country has a population of 52 million, i.e. about 5 times Ohio.
- codemac 1y agoSure, but Ohio has ~4200 bars[0]. Which is roughly 1/4 the ratio of bars to people. [0]: https://rentechdigital.com/smartscraper/business-report-details/united-states/list-of-bars-in-ohio?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://rentechdigital.com/smartscraper/business-report-deta...
- aktuel 1y agoOhioans love "big bars".
- xmprt 1y agoI don't think bars in Korea have parking minimums like they do in Ohio.
- skrebbel 1y agoWhat's a parking minimum?
- chmod775 1y agoThe minimum number of parking that needs to be available per seat/dining area. https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/plaincity/latest/plaincity_oh/0-0-0-15414 https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/plaincity/latest/plain... Codes like these are the secret sauce of America's asphalt deserts, in which you'll find - by international standards - comparatively large restaurants and stores. Walkable cities tend to gravitate towards smaller equivalents, and more of them.
- Akronymus 1y agoA minimum amount of parking spots per patron capacity. So a bar with 60 people capacity must have 15 parking spaces. [0] Usually parking minimums are WAY too high in required parking spaces to make sense in most cases. Which leads to stuff like a arena having 5x the land area be parking than what is taken up by the arena itself. [1] 0: https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/harrison/latest/harrison_oh/0-0-0-27427 https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/harrison/latest/harris... (this is for harrison, ohio, just happened to be the first result I found. it's under commercial -> "Tavern, bar, club, lodge, and dance hall.") 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUNXFHpUhu8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUNXFHpUhu8
- kijin 1y agoLooks like they got their hands on a dataset of every restaurant that is licensed to serve alcohol -- or at least a decent subset of such restaurants, filtered by menu or whatever. I checked a few dots near where I live and they're all fried chicken joints. Yeah, we do love chimaek around here. :)
- yard2010 1y agoIn korea after a certain hour every restaurant, karaoke, PCBang, and hotteok parlor is basically a bar :) God I miss this place so much <3
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- bbno4 1y agoamericans always compare massive cities to empty states
- notesinthefield 1y agoSnark aside - I used this site which compares the country question to the location closest to you. I live in ohio. https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/country-size-comparison/united-states/south-korea https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/country-size-comparison/unit...
- mherkender 1y agoSouth Korea has 5x the population of Ohio, but around 27x the number of bars [1]. So it really is a lot of bars. [1] https://www.ibisworld.com/us/industry/ohio/bars-nightclubs/12919/ https://www.ibisworld.com/us/industry/ohio/bars-nightclubs/1...
- deepspace 1y agoAs someone married to a Korean, I am not surprised in the least. Every single one I have met (males at least) drinks like a fish. It is impossible to describe to a westerner just how ingrained the drinking culture is over there.
- ZeroTalent 1y agoThey drink more than Eastern and Northern Europeans. It's insane!
- not_a_bot_4sho 1y agoEmpty lol
- numpad0 1y agoThe entire US and North America is massively more empty relative to almost anywhere else, even most perceptually sparse countries. Many of European countries are 5-10x denser than US. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_density
- ekianjo 1y agoAnd South Korea has one of the highest rates of stomach cancer.
- latentsea 1y agoTo be fair, it does sound like a pretty tough place to stomach.
- fakeBeerDrinker 1y agoAfter living there for about four years, my mind goes immediately to soju. Not sure if there is a connection, but that’s something I might deep dive with an LLM today.
- bigbacaloa 1y ago"Bar" doesn't mean the same thing in every country. In Spain although a bar serves alcohol of all kinds it is also where one eats breakfast and lunch and gets a coffee. They are indispensable social centers and even a tiny town of 150 has one.
- anthk 1y agoTown? More like village. You can have a nearly empty church, but there's no village without a bar.
- bobxmax 1y agoIf this is correct, it seems like Seoul has over 40x the number of bars that Chicago has, despite having only about 4x the population How in the hell?
- ceejayoz 1y agoThe bars may be much smaller.
- testing22321 1y agoMany countries have much more used “public” spaces, and people spend much more time in them, together. The idea of driving home to the suburbs and locking yourself into your private home is very North American. I just got back from10 months across Europe. The number of people in public places eating, chatting and just spending time (no simply going somewhere) makes LA or Chicago look like a ghost town.
- bobxmax 1y agoSure, but that's still an astronomically higher number of bars the UK in totality has 45k pubs, nearly half Seoul's number this is mostly emblematic of South Korea's major alcoholism problem. way too many bars and too much drinking.
- gniv 1y agoI checked a few and there's a lot of restaurants included. https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/korea/data/korea81998.xy.txt https://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/tsp/korea/data/korea81998.xy.t...
- BrtByte 1y agoSouth Korea really said "you will not be thirsty on our watch."
- jihadjihad 1y agoWhat's really cool is if you go to a site like [0] that shows the "true" size of countries etc. (i.e. not distorted by a projection), Indiana is probably the most analogous state to South Korea, in terms of size and shape. But South Korea has 7x the population of Indiana! Really puts into perspective a movie like "Train to Busan", which would be like taking a train from Gary to Madison! 0: https://thetruesize.com https://thetruesize.com