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You’d have to prove a crime here to send someone to jail, correct? What would the charges be?
by happyopossum 2y ago
You’d have to prove a crime here to send someone to jail, correct? What would the charges be?
- Alupis 2y ago[flagged]
- Aeolun 2y agoI think surely “we want untraceable admin accounts” should be illegal in some way. If only in regard to transparency.
- Alupis 2y ago[flagged]
- ziddoap 2y ago>"Tenant-admin" isn't such a radical thing Admin accounts without logs is extremely radical. I have literally never seen it, or had anyone request it, in my decade+ of consulting in security. Unless you think the whistleblower, Krebs, and everyone else reporting are lying. Which, in that case, nothing anyone says is going to change your opinion (and you should just say that, if it's what you think, to save us all time).
- Alupis 2y ago[flagged]
- ziddoap 2y agoLike two lines up from your quote: "He specifically was told that there were to be no logs or records made of the accounts created for DOGE employees" That sure sounds like no logs. If you don't believe the whistleblower, just say that, and skip the insulting me part (and I'll know to skip the replying to you part).
- Alupis 2y ago[flagged]
- ziddoap 2y ago>You are being selective in your quotation: Rich, coming from the person who left the sentence about logs out of their comment and then said "No where in the complaint does it allege anyone asked for an audit-less account". >Go ahead, read it again please. You have the experience to understand what this means. Do you get some sort of weird satisfaction out of being ridiculously condescending? Do you think it makes your argument stronger? Are you just an angry person? >This very clearly means we aren't using the normal account-creation process which itself creates logs of account creation. You think they requested no logs about account creation, but are cool with the logging after? What on earth would the purpose of that request be? The request was not stated in a way that implies a point-in-time request to turn off logs solely for account creation. (And, again, that would be a completely nonsense request that accomplishes literally nothing). Anyways, I have no interest in getting into it with someone that has to throw in little personal jabs in every comment. You can believe that the DOGE team only wanted the account creation to be exempt from logs but wanted the logs turned on immediately afterwards for god knows what reason.
- Alupis 2y ago[flagged]
- ziddoap 2y agoFirst it was logs weren't mentioned. Then it was, well, logs were mentioned, but only to be turned off for the account creation process. Now it is, well, it was someone else who requested it and everything is speculation. >Try to apply your experience here and calm down a bit. Had to get one more little jab in there, didn't you? Can't have just one comment without one. We're not going to convince each other. Hope that in the future, for other people's sake, that you can tone down your condescension and insults. It's a really unpleasant experience trying to discuss important things with someone who can't make a point without belittling the person they are talking to.
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- 9dev 2y agoWithout knowing the specifics of US law, there’s a lot in there for a reasonable case. Improper handling of sensitive data, interfering with ongoing legal proceedings, abuse of telecommunications infrastructure (looks like the guy runs a brute forcing crawler on a government system) and probably even more.
- ceejayoz 2y agoEl Salvador seems very willing to take people off our hands for mere allegations.