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I would not hold my breath. They are adept at malicious compliance. Cook will do a cost/benefit assessment and will come up with another workaround.
by SanjayMehta 2y ago
I would not hold my breath. They are adept at malicious compliance. Cook will do a cost/benefit assessment and will come up with another workaround.
- londons_explore 2y agoThe EU should instead set targets. Ie. "More than half of users have installed at least one app from a non-apple affiliated store by Jan 2026 or you shall pay a fine of $10 per month per iPhone in use in the EU".
- _mlbt 2y agoThat’s a terrible idea. How would they have any control over that. I think you are way overestimating the amount of iOS users that want to use software from outside the App Store.
- rokkamokka 2y agoAgreed, the only realistic way they could hit such a target is to shut down their own app store...
- 13_9_7_7_5_18 2y ago[dead]
- londons_explore 2y agoIf 3rd party stores didn't charge the Apple tax, I think you'd find plenty of apps moving to other stores, and within a matter of weeks more than half of users would have used a 3rd party store.
- _mlbt 2y agoThat’s my worst nightmare. On my iPhone I want the equivalent of Spotify, not Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, Max, etc.
- socalgal2 2y agoI want the equivalent of a shops in the real world. One shop doesn't carry everything. Even Spotify doesn't carry everything. For one, Apple doesn't allow adult content apps. Steam does. I'm sure there's a market for adult games on iPhone as Steam's success there would seem to suggest. I don't think Apple should be required to sell adult games but I also don't think they should get to dictate that people can't use their phones for adult games. So, more stores would great.
- _mlbt 2y agoWhy can’t people just buy Android phones that allow for this? They should change, not Apple and their users that like the walled garden.
- guappa 2y agoI mean, you realise nobody is going to point a gun at your head and force you to sideload apps right?
- _mlbt 2y agoYeah but these companies will force me to install their garbage third party app stores to install their apps. I really just want one good, properly vetted app store on my phone, is that so hard to understand? If you ever tried out third party app stores on Android you’ll see what I mean. See also the crappy launchers/stores major game publishers try to force on you on PCs.
- sheepdestroyer 2y agoIt's a bit of a false comparison, since you wouldn't have to pay monthly subscriptions to others stores as you have to for streaming services.
- socalgal2 2y agoThat really depends on the store. If Value made a Steam store, or Nintendo made a Nintendo store with Nintendo exclusives I'd expect millions of installs.
- neilc 2y agoMaybe but that is also not within Apple's control.
- StopDisinfo910 2y ago> They are adept at malicious compliance. They just got fined 500 millions for failure to comply so I'm not sure adept is the adjective I would use.
- weavie 2y ago500 million is like half a days revenue.
- mdhb 2y agoThe actual fines for this moving forward are up to 10% of a companies global revenue. The EU made a big point to say that this is the first time they are issuing those fines and as a result they are smaller than they otherwise would be especially in the case of repeat offenders.
- serial_dev 2y agoWhether it's adept or not depends on what would have happened if they actually complied. Sure, a half a billion fine sounds like a lot, but if you don't have another number to compare against, you can't tell if it was clever or not.
- _Algernon_ 2y agoHow much additional profit have they made based on their malicious compliance? I bet it dwarfs this fine.
- myrmidon 2y agoThat is not so clear. Appstore revenue is ~ $100 billion/y, but Apple makes less than 30% from that. So the question is: Would more convincing compliance have cost Apple more than single digit percentage decreases in Appstore sales? Comparing the F-Droid vs Playstore situation, this seems unlikely to me.
- seanmcdirmid 2y ago
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