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This is a smoking gun. I'm a little shocked at how little MSM coverage this is getting and the moral gymnastics some commentators are performing to lend a venee

This is a smoking gun. I'm a little shocked at how little MSM coverage this is getting and the moral gymnastics some commentators are performing to lend a veneer of innocence to this. It's an incident on par with 1950s Cambridge ring [0] and I cannot understand why an investigation team from the Pentagon are not all over this kicking-in doors and taking names? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Five https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Five

raverbashing 1y ago
It's hilarious how the bastions of the free press were all over her emails but suddenly become almost mum at this Then of course they are surprised nobody takes them seriously anymore
- SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
  At this point I wonder if it's fear. They were able to cover the Clinton story because they knew no harm would come to them - the government wouldn't prosecute the press. But these stories, under this government, is the sort of thing where it could end up on the wrong side of an unchecked tyrant who is increasingly vocal about their desire to ignore due process. The media companies ate so well and grew so fat covering the rise of fascism they didn't think what would happen when it finally gained power.
  - lazide 1y ago
    Of course it is. They’re all wondering who the first reporter is that is going to get disappeared to El Salvador.
  - thedailymail 1y ago
    Notably, Krebs just had his security clearance revoked by Trump & Co. 12 days ago for posing "risks". https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/04/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-addresses-risks-from-chris-krebs-and-government-censorship/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/04/fact-sheet-pr...
    - raverbashing 1y ago
      Nope. It's a different, unrelated Krebs The Cybersec one is Brian Krebs
      - thedailymail 1y ago
        Oh wow - TIL! I wish I could edit or delete the above. Anyway thanks for correcting me.
    - dzhiurgis 1y ago
      I mean it is not hard to see federal employees leaking data just to spite musks' project. You do not need russian attacks either, people in US leaking all sort of data every year.
  - 9283409232 1y ago
    Fear isn't the answer. Unionizing and supporting each other is. That's why they are going after the NLRB and unions.
    - SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
      If I were a journalist I don't know how much I would trust a union to stop ICE from pulling me out of bed in the middle of the night.
      - 9283409232 1y ago
        It's not about your union stopping them from pulling you out of bed, it's about what happens after that. Rumeysa Ozturk, the student who was abducted in Massachusetts was a member of a union and her union immediately sprang into action. Part of the reason this was national news so quickly was because her union took to the streets.
- VectorLock 1y ago
  There is a LOT of stuff to cover right now.
- llm_nerd 1y ago
  I think a part of it is simply that the space is absolutely flooded and the public becomes almost numb to it: This administration is so absolutely rampant with criminality, constitution shredding, and just rank incompetence that reports of more of the same just doesn't trend. I mean, it's similar to the fact that Trump lies about everything constantly -- even the most meaningless facts like his height and weight -- and soon it just isn't noteworthy that he continues lying about everything constantly. When Trump is caught in an obvious lie, which is basically a daily occurrence, he doesn't apologize, he doubles down, and this is his super power, at least among his incredibly stupid fans and base. "But her emails" was when Hillary using a private server was actually so exceptional it was like the singular thing. Trump's crew of misfits and clowns and self-dealing grifters have turned the government into a circus. They're all insider trading, launching shitcoins, turning the WH lawn into a pathetic infomercial while your commerce secretary -- Howard "Used Car Salesman" Lutnick -- is pushing stocks.
intended 1y ago
There will be coverage, but it has little point. The information network in America is Centre, left and centre right orgs, and then there is the Hermetically sealed Fox and related ecosystem. So even if 2/3rds of America decide this is too much, they aren’t sufficient to shift what is covered in the idea economy and the political economy. I just found out there’s even a book that did the ground work to make this case, in 2018. (Network propaganda.) This is the prime reason I recommend all democracies look beyond their current leaders and grapple with the structural issues caused by capture of the media ecosystem. Do note - this isn’t an issue of bias. There’s a protectionist economy on the right, where reality is whatever storyline they need to share.
jimbokun 1y ago
Because the Pentagon has the same boss as the people conducting these activities.
- roflyear 1y ago
  Well, kind of. There are people there who don't care about that.
dharmab 1y ago
> I cannot understand why an investigation team from the Pentagon are not all over this kicking-in doors and taking names? The same Pentagon, which is current run by this person? https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-signal-chat-houthis-attack-8dbf9dd6c711796438a5c1c84831c40b https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-signal-chat-houthis-attac...
Cthulhu_ 1y ago
> I cannot understand why an investigation team from the Pentagon are not all over this kicking-in doors and taking names? As others have said but I can't reply to, it's because the Pentagon is run by a traitor and they stop any investigations under threat of dismissal. But I hope people are keeping notes and will come forward, so that all of these people will face the consequences.

raverbashing 1y ago

It's hilarious how the bastions of the free press were all over her emails but suddenly become almost mum at this Then of course they are surprised nobody takes them seriously anymore

SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
At this point I wonder if it's fear. They were able to cover the Clinton story because they knew no harm would come to them - the government wouldn't prosecute the press. But these stories, under this government, is the sort of thing where it could end up on the wrong side of an unchecked tyrant who is increasingly vocal about their desire to ignore due process. The media companies ate so well and grew so fat covering the rise of fascism they didn't think what would happen when it finally gained power.
- lazide 1y ago
  Of course it is. They’re all wondering who the first reporter is that is going to get disappeared to El Salvador.
- thedailymail 1y ago
  Notably, Krebs just had his security clearance revoked by Trump & Co. 12 days ago for posing "risks". https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/04/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-addresses-risks-from-chris-krebs-and-government-censorship/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/04/fact-sheet-pr...
  - raverbashing 1y ago
    Nope. It's a different, unrelated Krebs The Cybersec one is Brian Krebs
    - thedailymail 1y ago
      Oh wow - TIL! I wish I could edit or delete the above. Anyway thanks for correcting me.
  - dzhiurgis 1y ago
    I mean it is not hard to see federal employees leaking data just to spite musks' project. You do not need russian attacks either, people in US leaking all sort of data every year.
- 9283409232 1y ago
  Fear isn't the answer. Unionizing and supporting each other is. That's why they are going after the NLRB and unions.
  - SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
    If I were a journalist I don't know how much I would trust a union to stop ICE from pulling me out of bed in the middle of the night.
    - 9283409232 1y ago
      It's not about your union stopping them from pulling you out of bed, it's about what happens after that. Rumeysa Ozturk, the student who was abducted in Massachusetts was a member of a union and her union immediately sprang into action. Part of the reason this was national news so quickly was because her union took to the streets.
VectorLock 1y ago
There is a LOT of stuff to cover right now.
llm_nerd 1y ago
I think a part of it is simply that the space is absolutely flooded and the public becomes almost numb to it: This administration is so absolutely rampant with criminality, constitution shredding, and just rank incompetence that reports of more of the same just doesn't trend. I mean, it's similar to the fact that Trump lies about everything constantly -- even the most meaningless facts like his height and weight -- and soon it just isn't noteworthy that he continues lying about everything constantly. When Trump is caught in an obvious lie, which is basically a daily occurrence, he doesn't apologize, he doubles down, and this is his super power, at least among his incredibly stupid fans and base. "But her emails" was when Hillary using a private server was actually so exceptional it was like the singular thing. Trump's crew of misfits and clowns and self-dealing grifters have turned the government into a circus. They're all insider trading, launching shitcoins, turning the WH lawn into a pathetic infomercial while your commerce secretary -- Howard "Used Car Salesman" Lutnick -- is pushing stocks.

intended 1y ago

There will be coverage, but it has little point. The information network in America is Centre, left and centre right orgs, and then there is the Hermetically sealed Fox and related ecosystem. So even if 2/3rds of America decide this is too much, they aren’t sufficient to shift what is covered in the idea economy and the political economy. I just found out there’s even a book that did the ground work to make this case, in 2018. (Network propaganda.) This is the prime reason I recommend all democracies look beyond their current leaders and grapple with the structural issues caused by capture of the media ecosystem. Do note - this isn’t an issue of bias. There’s a protectionist economy on the right, where reality is whatever storyline they need to share.

jimbokun 1y ago

Because the Pentagon has the same boss as the people conducting these activities.

roflyear 1y ago
Well, kind of. There are people there who don't care about that.

dharmab 1y ago

> I cannot understand why an investigation team from the Pentagon are not all over this kicking-in doors and taking names? The same Pentagon, which is current run by this person? https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-signal-chat-houthis-attack-8dbf9dd6c711796438a5c1c84831c40b https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-signal-chat-houthis-attac...

Cthulhu_ 1y ago

> I cannot understand why an investigation team from the Pentagon are not all over this kicking-in doors and taking names? As others have said but I can't reply to, it's because the Pentagon is run by a traitor and they stop any investigations under threat of dismissal. But I hope people are keeping notes and will come forward, so that all of these people will face the consequences.