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I actually find that hugely helpful that so many people are actually actively expressing they are hitting this. It's not easy to be able to get an idea what iss

I actually find that hugely helpful that so many people are actually actively expressing they are hitting this. It's not easy to be able to get an idea what issues people are actually hitting with anything you have made. An issue being bumped with essentially "me too" is a highly valuable signal.

hkt 2y ago
Reactions, though.
stingraycharles 2y ago
It’s not just that, it’s people commenting “this is unacceptable” and “I hate this library” that add very little value. Also, you can upvote issues as well / leave reactions without leaving comments. It ensures a better signal:noise ratio in the actual discussion.
arp242 2y ago
Do you really think the maintainers don't understand that "doesn't work with Python 3.13" isn't going to affect tons of people? There's some bozo asking "any news? I cant downgrade because another lib requirement" just two days after the maintainer wrote several paragraphs explaining how difficult it is to make it work with Python 3.13. This adds no value for anyone and is just noise. Anyone interested in actual useful information (workarounds, pointers on how to help) has to wade though a firehose of useless nonsense to get at anything remotely useful. Any seriously discussions of maintainers wanting to discuss things is constantly interrupted by the seagulls from Finding Nemo: "fix? fix? fix? fix? fix?"" Never mind the demanding nature of some people in that thread. Just upvote. That's why this entire feature was added.
- rowanG077 2y ago
  Considering the python ecosystem is not keen on staying updated anyway, I wouldn't be surprised a maintainer doesn't realize a new python version not working is that important.
- madars 2y ago
  After seeing "Jigar Kumar" cognitive exploits on xz mailing list a maintainer would be excused (and I'd even say, encouraged) to just ignore pressure tactics altogether. It's an open source project - if it works great, if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.
- throwaway519 2y ago
  To the non-technical founder, this is doing something. They will not move to ~~mocking up~~ sketching a wireframe of something.
- deleted 2y ago
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- aftbit 2y ago
  [flagged]
barotalomey 2y ago
That's why github added emoji reactions many years ago, so you can express "me too" without spamming the notification systems. https://github.blog/news-insights/product-news/add-reactions-to-pull-requests-issues-and-comments/ https://github.blog/news-insights/product-news/add-reactions...
- paganel 2y ago
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  - qwertox 2y ago
    Maybe then GitHub should add a text-based expression for people like you. Like Google does in Gmail, where you can turn off the icons for the "archive", "report spam" actions so that the text is shown instead. I'm sure this would add a lot of value to GitHub /s Or you ask your OS vendor (or each website operator) to also ship an optional set of emoticons with less childish images. Start a petition and I'll sign it.
  - padjo 2y ago
    Emoji being associated with infancy is a thing that only exists in your brain and only because young people were early adopters of emoji about 15 years ago. Emoji are just as valid a means of communication as any other.
    - anonym29 2y ago
      It's definitey not only in their brain, it's in my brain, too. On a related note: Emoticon > Emoji. Bring back B~), get rid of those silly newfangled unicode monstrosities.
      - genewitch 2y ago
        Element and discord and the Samsung default keyboard try to :coloncode: any emoticons you type. This is on desktop and mobile, since the two apps are electron. \>. <

hkt 2y ago

Reactions, though.

stingraycharles 2y ago

It’s not just that, it’s people commenting “this is unacceptable” and “I hate this library” that add very little value. Also, you can upvote issues as well / leave reactions without leaving comments. It ensures a better signal:noise ratio in the actual discussion.

arp242 2y ago

Do you really think the maintainers don't understand that "doesn't work with Python 3.13" isn't going to affect tons of people? There's some bozo asking "any news? I cant downgrade because another lib requirement" just two days after the maintainer wrote several paragraphs explaining how difficult it is to make it work with Python 3.13. This adds no value for anyone and is just noise. Anyone interested in actual useful information (workarounds, pointers on how to help) has to wade though a firehose of useless nonsense to get at anything remotely useful. Any seriously discussions of maintainers wanting to discuss things is constantly interrupted by the seagulls from Finding Nemo: "fix? fix? fix? fix? fix?"" Never mind the demanding nature of some people in that thread. Just upvote. That's why this entire feature was added.

rowanG077 2y ago
Considering the python ecosystem is not keen on staying updated anyway, I wouldn't be surprised a maintainer doesn't realize a new python version not working is that important.
madars 2y ago
After seeing "Jigar Kumar" cognitive exploits on xz mailing list a maintainer would be excused (and I'd even say, encouraged) to just ignore pressure tactics altogether. It's an open source project - if it works great, if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.
throwaway519 2y ago
To the non-technical founder, this is doing something. They will not move to ~~mocking up~~ sketching a wireframe of something.
deleted 2y ago
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aftbit 2y ago
[flagged]

barotalomey 2y ago

That's why github added emoji reactions many years ago, so you can express "me too" without spamming the notification systems. https://github.blog/news-insights/product-news/add-reactions-to-pull-requests-issues-and-comments/ https://github.blog/news-insights/product-news/add-reactions...

paganel 2y ago
[flagged]
- qwertox 2y ago
  Maybe then GitHub should add a text-based expression for people like you. Like Google does in Gmail, where you can turn off the icons for the "archive", "report spam" actions so that the text is shown instead. I'm sure this would add a lot of value to GitHub /s Or you ask your OS vendor (or each website operator) to also ship an optional set of emoticons with less childish images. Start a petition and I'll sign it.
- padjo 2y ago
  Emoji being associated with infancy is a thing that only exists in your brain and only because young people were early adopters of emoji about 15 years ago. Emoji are just as valid a means of communication as any other.
  - anonym29 2y ago
    It's definitey not only in their brain, it's in my brain, too. On a related note: Emoticon > Emoji. Bring back B~), get rid of those silly newfangled unicode monstrosities.
    - genewitch 2y ago
      Element and discord and the Samsung default keyboard try to :coloncode: any emoticons you type. This is on desktop and mobile, since the two apps are electron. \>. <