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Yes, you are completely wrong. There was actually an internal team with real technical benchmarks around LLM alignment, deception, misuse. It's been gutted an

Yes, you are completely wrong. There was actually an internal team with real technical benchmarks around LLM alignment, deception, misuse. It's been gutted and most of the key actors have left.

bluefirebrand 2y ago
This doesn't sound like a job that needs a dramatic title like "Catastrophic Risk Official" to me
- Xelynega 2y ago
  So the name being wrong means the department should be gutted? Overly-serious naming is hardly a reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
  - bluefirebrand 2y ago
    > So the name being wrong means the department should be gutted? All I said was that I like pancakes, where are you getting "I hate waffles" from? > Overly-serious naming It is actually completely un-serious naming imo, which may have contributed to higher ups at the company wondering what this person even did and how valuable they were
    - bpodgursky 2y ago
      Dude you have no idea what you are talking about. Just stop talking and read for a few minutes. OpenAI was founded around the principle avoiding catastrophic risk. 0 people at OpenAI are confused by the goal. It is the governance board's (nominal) primary and only goal. Sidelining that team was an intentional goal by a CEO who wants to pivot into a for-profit company. I just cannot explain how wrong you are on this. Please have some intellectual humility.
      - bluefirebrand 2y ago
        Catastrophic risk was never a serious possibility from anything OpenAI could ever produce, so it's not surprising at all that this is being sidelined as they pivot to a for-profit company Anyone who joined OpenAI in the past thinking they were seriously going to produce "Catastrophic Risk" from their research into language models is a joke If you want me to believe "catastrophic risk" is an outcome from your company, I would assume you are developing autonomous weapons, not glorified chatbots Please be serious
TiredOfLife 2y ago
There are toys for small children that look like real world objects like phones or steering wheels so they think they do the same thing as adults.

Yes, you are completely wrong. There was actually an internal team with real technical benchmarks around LLM alignment, deception, misuse. It's been gutted and most of the key actors have left.

bluefirebrand 2y ago

This doesn't sound like a job that needs a dramatic title like "Catastrophic Risk Official" to me

Xelynega 2y ago
So the name being wrong means the department should be gutted? Overly-serious naming is hardly a reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
- bluefirebrand 2y ago
  > So the name being wrong means the department should be gutted? All I said was that I like pancakes, where are you getting "I hate waffles" from? > Overly-serious naming It is actually completely un-serious naming imo, which may have contributed to higher ups at the company wondering what this person even did and how valuable they were
  - bpodgursky 2y ago
    Dude you have no idea what you are talking about. Just stop talking and read for a few minutes. OpenAI was founded around the principle avoiding catastrophic risk. 0 people at OpenAI are confused by the goal. It is the governance board's (nominal) primary and only goal. Sidelining that team was an intentional goal by a CEO who wants to pivot into a for-profit company. I just cannot explain how wrong you are on this. Please have some intellectual humility.
    - bluefirebrand 2y ago
      Catastrophic risk was never a serious possibility from anything OpenAI could ever produce, so it's not surprising at all that this is being sidelined as they pivot to a for-profit company Anyone who joined OpenAI in the past thinking they were seriously going to produce "Catastrophic Risk" from their research into language models is a joke If you want me to believe "catastrophic risk" is an outcome from your company, I would assume you are developing autonomous weapons, not glorified chatbots Please be serious

TiredOfLife 2y ago

There are toys for small children that look like real world objects like phones or steering wheels so they think they do the same thing as adults.