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"haven't actually done much" being popularizing the chat llm and absolutely dwarfing the competition in paid usage
by leesec 1y ago
"haven't actually done much" being popularizing the chat llm and absolutely dwarfing the competition in paid usage
- amarcheschi 1y agoI guess it was related to the last period, rather than the full picture
- flkenosad 1y agoWhat are people expecting here honestly? This thread is ridiculous.
- iLoveOncall 1y agoChatGPT was released in 2022, so OP's point stands perfectly well.
- echelon 1y agoThey're rumored to be working on a social network to rival X with the focus being on image generations. https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/15/openai-is-reportedly-developing-its-own-x-like-social-media-platform/ https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/15/openai-is-reportedly-devel... The play now seems to be less AGI, more "too big to fail" / use all the capital to morph into a FAANG bigtech. My bet is that they'll develop a suite of office tools that leverage their model, chat/communication tools, a browser, and perhaps a device. They're going to try to turn into Google (with maybe a bit of Apple and Meta) before Google turns into them. Near-term, I don't see late stage investors as recouping their investment. But in time, this may work out well for them. There's a tremendous amount of inefficiency and lack of competition amongst the big tech players. They've been so large that nobody else could effectively challenge them. Now there's a "startup" with enough capital to start eating into big tech's more profitable business lines.
- refulgentis 1y agoI don't know how anyone could look at any of this and say ponderously: it's basically the same as Nov 2022 ChatGPT. Thus strategically they're pivoting to social to become too big to fail.
- echelon 1y agoI mean, it's not fucking AGI/ASI. No amount of LLM flip floppery is going to get us terminators. If this starts looking differently and the pace picks up, I won't be giving analysis on OpenAI anymore. I'll start packing for the hills. But to OpenAI's credit, I also don't see how minting another FAANG isn't an incredible achievement. Like - wow - this tech giant was willed into existence. Can't we marvel at that a little bit without worrying about LLMs doing our taxes?
- refulgentis 1y agoI don't know what AGI/ASI means to you. I'm bullish on the models, and my first quiet 5 minutes after the announcement was spent thinking how many of the people I walked past days would be different if the computer Just Did It(tm) (I don't think their day would be different, so I'm not bullish on ASI-even-if-achieved, I guess?) I think binary analysis that flips between "this is a propped up failure, like when banks get bailouts" and "I'd run away from civilization" isn't really worth much.
- kadushka 1y agoSo to you AGI == terminators? Interesting.
- fkyoureadthedoc 1y agoNot surprising. Add comments to sora.com and you've got a social network.
- echelon 1y agoSeriously. The users on sora.com are already trying to. They're sending messages to each other with the embedded image text and upvoting it. GPT 4o and Sora are incredibly viral and organic and it's taking over TikTok, Instagram, and all other social media. If you're not watching casual social media you might miss it, but it's nothing short of a phenomenon. ChatGPT is now the most downloaded app this month. Images are the reason for that.
- swyx 1y agoseriously. the level of arrogance combined with ignorance is awe inspiring.
- buzzerbetrayed 1y agoTrue. They've blown their absolutely massive lead with power users to Anthropic and Google. So they definitely haven't done nothing.
- littlestymaar 1y agoChatGPT was released two and a half years ago though. Pretty sure that at some point Sam Altman had promised us AGI by now. The person you're responding to is correct that OpenAI feels a lot more stagnant than other players (like Google, which was nowhere to be seen even one year and a half ago and now has the leading model on pretty much every metric, but also DeepSeek, who built a competitive model in a year that runs for much cheaper).
- kadushka 1y agoGoogle has the leading model on pretty much every metric Correction: Google had the leading model for three weeks. Today it’s back to the second place.
- littlestymaar 1y agopress X to doubt o3-mini wasn't even the second place for non-STEM tasks, and in today's announcement they don't even publish benchmarks for those. What's impressive about Gemini 2.5 pro (and was also really impressive with R1) is how good the model is for a very broad range of tasks, not just benchmaxing on AIME.
- kadushka 1y agoI had a philosophical discussion with o3 model earlier today. It was much better than 2.5 pro. In fact it was pretty much what I would expect from a professional philosopher.
- littlestymaar 1y agoI'm not expecting someone paying $200 a month to access something to be objective about that particular something. Also “what I would expect from a professional philosopher”, is that your argument, really?
- kadushka 1y ago
- spaceywilly 1y agoThey have 500M weekly users now. I would say that counts as doing something.
- namaria 1y agoWhile bleeding cash faster than anything else in History.
- caconym_ 1y agoRelative to the hype they've been spinning to attract investment, casting the launch and commercialization of ChatGPT as their greatest achievement really is a quite significant downgrade, especially given that they really only got there first because they were the first entity reckless enough to deploy such a tool to the public. It's easy to forget what smart, connected people were saying about how AI would evolve by <current date> ~a year ago, when in fact what we've gotten since then is a whole bunch of diminishing returns and increasingly sketchy benchmark shenanigans. I have no idea when a real AGI breakthrough will happen, but if you're a person who wants it to happen (I am not), you have to admit to yourself that the last year or so has been disappointing---even if you won't admit it to anybody else.
- leesec 1y agoBuddy o3 just came out and it's an incredible step forward