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The EU should just buy MITRE. Move it to the EU and make it a EU based project.
by Ucalegon 1y ago
The EU should just buy MITRE. Move it to the EU and make it a EU based project.
- panny 1y agoThis would be hilarious. That would be a good thumb in the eye to the current administration who complained long and loud about how Obama let ICANN leave US possession. Just imagine the campaign commercials in 2026, >The POTUS transferred our cyber defenses to the EU Ouch
- rob74 1y agoWell, that's kind of the point? The current administration doesn't care about cyber defense, any less than it cares about protecting the environment, protecting consumers, having top-notch universities and research, foreign aid etc. etc. Actually, it takes pride in not caring about all of these things.
- Ucalegon 1y agoNot to mention the administration aren't going to be held accountable for, or actually be impacted by, the harms that come for their actions.
- rocqua 1y agoMy guess is that they feel they are supplying something the whole world is benefiting from, and they believe that unfair. That ignores the fact that the US benefits immensely from this, and that they benefit domestically from providing that benefit more widely by getting a lot of free contributions from the outside. But the US foots the bill of those who do get payed, so its unfair...
- fragmede 1y agoIt's so unfair that I have an great job so I can treat my friends to dinner all the time! I hate being rich.
- imcritic 1y agoIt's rather "I know I'm rich, but why do friends expect ME to pay for dinner all the time? It's so unfair!".
- clort 1y agoIts a bit like when you are a two-bit loser but have a private island where you can do whatever you like, and invite every celebrity you can find over to party every weekend, then start complaining that they haven't paid any of the island running costs and that they are all spongers because you are the main attraction of the island parties.
- imcritic 1y agoI find your analogy to be poor: is someone owning a private island and familiar with lots of celebrities a loser? I'd very much like to be such a "loser".
- pyrale 1y agoAnother analogy: my friends and I often eat at the restaurant I own, and occasionally, I pick the tab. I complained angrily about it, and now they want to try out other restaurants or dine at home.
- chillingeffect 1y agoAnd at the best restaurants! And I get to choose the restaurant! And choose when we eat! And pick the appetizers, drinks, entrees, and desert! So instead I will allow myself to be robbed and we'll all share the cost of a low-key restuarant. Or maybe let's charge each other to eat together, yeah!
- chillingeffect 1y agoThis american admin doesnt seem to understand the benefits of leadership. Like being de facto currency, ability to operate while deep in debt, etc.
- 1659447091 1y ago> The current administration doesn't care about cyber defense, any less than it cares about protecting the environment On the contrary, I would argue that they deeply care about the environment. The REAL point of all those tit-for-tat tariffs with China including with small mail/packages are to drastically cut cargo/shipping emissions. The threatening of annexation of Canada? That was really to get ~70% reduction in air passenger traffic BECAUSE they care about the environment. Same with creating a few high profile border horror story incidents against nationals from allied countries. The real point of it? Reduce transoceanic air passenger loads and save the environment. /s
- jonnybgood 1y agoMITRE is a non-profit. All the EU has to do is reach out to MITRE and be willing to fund the project.
- Ucalegon 1y agoI know that they are a 501(c)3, but they have significant revenue and intellectual property, so in order to do the lift and shift, there would need to be some money changing hands to accomplish it. Not only that, but being owned by the EU gives the ability for MITRE employees to have the option to immigrate to the EU to protect against any retaliation. I cannot believe I am typing that second sentence, but here we are.
- bkor 1y ago> Not only that, but being owned by the EU gives the ability for MITRE employees to have the option to immigrate to the EU to protect against any retaliation. According to which rule would "owning by the EU" result in an option to immigrate? Immigration is handled on a per country basis. I don't see how the EU provide such an option.
- labster 1y agoThe EU can accomplish it with diplomacy. It’s unknown technology in America, but diplomacy and asking to work together is truly powerful.
- bkor 1y ago> The EU can accomplish it with diplomacy. Agree. It'll likely happen that way. Still, dislike the initial incorrect assertion.
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- elric 1y agoI don't think the EU has any interest in this. They've been aware of the risk of relying on the US for software security for years, but AFAIK there have been no efforts to do anything about it. Maybe the current situation will kick some butts into gear ... Off topic: your username is very appropriate given the situation.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago>They've been aware of the risk of relying on the US for software security for years, but AFAIK there have been no efforts to do anything about it. Indeed. Just as Germany knew their economy is vulnerable to Russian gas and did nothing about it, even after the 2014 invasion of Crimea. Just as the west knew moving their entire manufacturing sector to one country would make them vulnerable, but choose to ignore it because it was too profitable. I never EVER saw politicians act proactively for the good of the nation or the people, all they do is act reactively after the shit hits the fan to control public opinion and blame someone else to make sure they get re-elected, that's it. Once you realize our rulers aren't competent at their jobs or acting in the peoples' best interest, it all makes sense. They're in it for the grift and to enrich their monopolistic friends in the private sector, to make sure line goes up in the next quarter, that's it. Yes, I know there are good politicians out there who care and fight for their local communities, but they never make it to rule at national or international stage and actually change the rotten system because the status quo doesn't allow that.
- concordDance 1y ago> I never EVER saw politicians act proactively for the good of the nation or the people, This is almost certainly because those cases don't make the news.
- FirmwareBurner 1y agoThey do where I live, but those are drops in the bucket compared to the industrial scale theft(wealth transfer) the central government operates.
- belter 1y agoThis should be work for the ENISA: https://www.enisa.europa.eu/ https://www.enisa.europa.eu/ https://www.enisa.europa.eu/topics/vulnerability-disclosure https://www.enisa.europa.eu/topics/vulnerability-disclosure They have a tender going on tracking best practices: https://www.enisa.europa.eu/procurement/vulnerability-disclosure-policies-and-vulnerability-databases https://www.enisa.europa.eu/procurement/vulnerability-disclo... So they will take 12 months to select for the tender...18 months pondering on the report...and in 3 years they make a tender out for a solution...
- Xelbair 1y agooh but you forgot the mandatory time before they even start considering the tender. looking at average speed of bureaucracy in EU it will take roughly a year to set date for a meeting that will set the date for actual meeting which will decide if this will go forward or not.... (if you think i'm joking - i'm basing this on proposed EU initiative for nuclear power which started with setting a date of meeting to setup a meeting to draft an agenda)
- _joel 1y ago100% - I wonder if this is partly by design.
- nottorp 1y agoI'm kind of thinking of Frank Herbert's BuSab here...
- mvandermeulen 1y agoSir Humphrey ran that meeting if I recall correctly
- belter 1y agoThe five stages of creative inertia: https://youtu.be/PcghKtd-yP0?t=23 https://youtu.be/PcghKtd-yP0?t=23