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>One idea behind the OpenAI social prototype, we’ve heard, is to have AI help people share better content. “The Grok integration with X has made everyone jealou
by beloch 2y ago
>One idea behind the OpenAI social prototype, we’ve heard, is to have AI help people share better content. “The Grok integration with X has made everyone jealous,” says someone working at another big AI lab. “Especially how people create viral tweets by getting it to say something stupid.”
This would be a decent PR stunt, but would such a platform offer anything of value?
It might be more valuable to set AI to the task of making the most human social platform out there. Right now, Facebook, TikTok, Reddit, etc. are all rife with bots, spam, and generative AI junk. Finding good content in this sea of noise is becoming increasingly difficult. A social media platform that uses AI to filter out spam, bots, and other AI with the goal of making human content easy to access might really catch on. Set a thief to catch thieves.
Who are we kidding. It's going to be Will Smith eating spaghetti all the way down.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y agoNo, nothing of value. If you ever want to lose faith in the future of humanity search "@grok" on Twitter and look at all the interactions people have with it. Just total infantilism, people needing tl;drs spoon-fed to them, needing summarization and one-word answers because they don't want to read, arguing with it or whining to Musk if they don't get the answer they want to confirm what they already believe.
- Centigonal 2y agothe worst is like a dozen people in the replies to a post asking Grok the exact same obvious follow-up question. Somehow, having access to an LLM has completely annihilated these commenters' ability to scroll down 50 pixels.
- rudedogg 2y agoI bookmarked this example where it is confidently incorrect about a movie frame/screenshot: https://x.com/Pee159604/status/1909445730697462080 https://x.com/Pee159604/status/1909445730697462080
- exodust 2y agoYour example doesn't appear to contain a reply from grok, only a question.
- input_sh 2y agoIt does, you just can't see it without logging in because Twitter is shit now. https://xcancel.com/Pee159604/status/1909445730697462080 https://xcancel.com/Pee159604/status/1909445730697462080
- exodust 2y agoI was logged in but it wasn't showing, but it's showing now. > confidently incorrect I disagree. Grok had a crack and got it wrong. LLMs get things wrong sometimes. Besides, it said "likely from Species", which is guesswork. The original post is garbage. "Chimp the fuck out"... I don't even know what that means, so Grok didn't have much to go on by analysing the "green text".
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- golergka 2y ago> people needing tl;drs spoon-fed to them, needing summarization and one-word answers because they don't want to read It's bad that this need exists. However, introducing this feature did not create the need. And if this need exists, fulfilling it is still better, because otherwise these kind of people wouldn't get this information at all.
- _Algernon_ 2y agoThis is worse because the AI slop is full of hallucinations which they will now confidently parrot. No way in hell does this type of person verify or even think critically about what the LLMs tell them. No information is better than bad information. Less information while practicing the ability to critically use it is better than bad information in excess.
- golergka 2y agoDo you have examples of recent models hallucinating when asked to summarize a text?
- a_bonobo 2y agoAll decent people I know have deleted their Twitter accounts - the kind of people you now see on twitter in the mentions are... not good people.
- exodust 2y ago> needing summarization Before we get too excited with disparaging those seeking summaries, it's common for people of all levels to want summary information. It doesn't mean they want everything summarized or are bad people. I'm not particularly interested in "tariffs, what are they good for, what's the history and examples good or bad"... so I asked for a summary from grok. It gave me a decent summary. Concise and structured. I asked a few follow-ups, then went on with my life knowing a little more than nothing about tariffs. A win for summarized information.
- huvarda 2y ago"@gork explain this tweet"
- ein0p 2y agoYou also can get Grok to fact check bullshit by tagging @grok and asking it a question about a post. Unfortunately this is not realtime as it can sometimes take up to an hour to respond, but I've found it to be pretty level headed in its responses. I use this feature often.
- exodust 2y agoTrue. I see that too. It's a good addition to community notes. It can correctly evaluate "partially true" posts and those lacking details, so it's great at spotting cherry-picked information.
- ein0p 2y agoPeople sort of expect it to 100% subscribe to the right wing dogma now, but Elon apparently wasn't joking about it being "truth seeking". It seems pretty impartial to me, on some topics even "woke".
- dom96 2y agoWhy would AI be any better at filtering out spam than developers have so far been with ML? The only way to avoid spam is to actually make a social network for humans, and the only way to do so is to verify each account belongs to a single human. The only way I've found that this can be done is by using passports[0]. 0 - https://onlyhumanhub.com https://onlyhumanhub.com
- omneity 2y agoHow do you handle binationals who might not have the same details (or even name) on each of their passports?
- sampullman 2y agoYou can always get around identification requirements, for example by purchasing a fake passport in this case. The idea is to increase the cost/friction of doing so as much as possible. A fake ID is a lot harder to get your hands on than a new email, burner phone, etc.
- dom96 2y ago1 passport = one human Yes, this does mean that dual nationals can have two separate human accounts. But it’s still better than an infinite number of accounts, which is the case for social networks right now.
- dayvigo 2y agoSo you have to just trust them to permanently delete the data after verifying you?
- edaemon 2y agoThat's interesting. Is there a social network where you can only connect with people you meet in real life?
- kikoreis 2y ago(Stretching a definition of social network.) Not strictly but Debian, where member inclusion is done through an in person chain of trust process so you have clusters of people who know each other offline as a basis. Also, most WhatsApp contacts have been exchanged IRL, I presume.
- TheOtherHobbes 2y agoAn interesting use for AI right now would be using it as a gatekeeping filter, selecting social media for quality based on customisable definitions of quality. Using it as a filter instead of a generator would provide information about which content has real social value, which content doesn't, and what the many dimensions of "value" are. The current maximalist "Use AI to generate as much as possible" trend is the opposite of social intelligence.
- falcor84 2y agoIt's a nice idea in principle, but would probably immediately become a way by the admins to promote some views and discourage others with the excuse of some opinions being of lower quality.
- _Algernon_ 2y agoThat's what moderation is and is perfectly fine. Dang does that here on HN and for good reason.
- numpad0 2y agoIt's not moderation, for one thing it never will be used with moderation.
- petesergeant 2y agoI think that's right. Twitter without ads, showing you content you _do_ want to see using some embeddings magic, with decent blocking mechanisms, and not being run as a personal mouthpiece by the world's most unpopular man ... certainly not the worst idea.
- timeon 2y ago> This would be a decent PR stunt, but would such a platform offer anything of value? Like all those start-ups that are on the 'mission' to save the world with an app. Not sure if it is PR for users or VCs.
- ceroxylon 2y agoSam's last social media project included users verifying their humanity, so there is hope that something like that slips into the new platform.