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I don't believe there's any major harm in using Github for most projects. Maintaining my own servers and chasing ideological purity doesn't improve my project.

I don't believe there's any major harm in using Github for most projects. Maintaining my own servers and chasing ideological purity doesn't improve my project. Any time I dedicate to setting up infrastructure is time I'm not dedicating to making the code better. The nature of Git means Microsoft can't really do much harm. Every developer and contributor has a copy of the repo, should the worst happen setting up home elsewhere isn't that difficult. But until it is, why spend time on it?

bestouff 2y ago
> The nature of Git means Microsoft can't really do much harm. Famous last words
- frizlab 2y ago
  yup. If we were using fossil I’d agree more, but git is code exclusively, which is not actually much in a project.
- Zambyte 2y ago
  Especially when a huge portion of GitHub is not Git (wiki, discussions, issues, ci...)
  - qiine 2y ago
    at this point it feels like github is becoming a social network for developers
    - bitbasher 2y ago
      Give it a few more years and we'll have LinkedIn-like developer feeds.
      - qiine 2y ago
        Why do you give away nightmarish ideas for free ?
  - queenkjuul 2y ago
    The wikis are backed by git repos, i just moved my project wiki from GitHub to self-hosted, took just minutes Issues and PR comments are another story though
    - rurban 2y ago
      Issues and PR are covered in git-bug bridges, easily mirrored to other forges. But since all other forges still suck compared to github, everybody uses github.
sublimefire 2y ago
My thoughts as well. Microsoft is just one of the companies, Google is no better either. Any OSS component could be bought and made non free, any free project provided by Google etc could change the licence and prevent you from using it, similar happened recently. I think it is great that people use GitHub as it has a low barrier of entry, if anything happens the stuff can quickly be moved elsewhere. Until then we can piggyback on the free platform. Using some other company does not make it immediately safer anyway. The challenge here is more about archiving, especially those rarely used repos. In any case GH is safe as MS is focussing more on AI now and they do not have a good alternative to GitHub to think about turning it off like Skype yet.
- guappa 2y ago
  The CI stuff and the fact that you can't really export bugreports and similar things are their lock in.
  - myaccountonhn 2y ago
    Also the fact that all your team knows how to use is Github pull requests, and they will whine like crazy if you move to a different model.
    - guappa 2y ago
      Good news! Codeberg has pull requests!
      - myaccountonhn 2y ago
        Codeberg is only for Foss projects thou
        guappa 2y ago
        Did you even read the title of the article? Let alone the content…
guappa 2y ago
> Maintaining my own servers You could just use codeberg. But you immediately had to jump to the most difficult alternative.
- deleted 2y ago
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myaccountonhn 2y ago
I think this works, but if you use their wiki, issue, actions etc. Its going to be harder to migrate off of it. Basically avoid the vendor lockin functionality.
nottorp 2y ago
> I don't believe there's any major harm in using Github for most projects. Actually there was one mentioned in a different post. You're at the mercy of Microsoft (and random US sanctions) not only for your project, where you have a copy of the source and are the canonical source for further updates, but also for your dependencies.

bestouff 2y ago

> The nature of Git means Microsoft can't really do much harm. Famous last words

frizlab 2y ago
yup. If we were using fossil I’d agree more, but git is code exclusively, which is not actually much in a project.
Zambyte 2y ago
Especially when a huge portion of GitHub is not Git (wiki, discussions, issues, ci...)
- qiine 2y ago
  at this point it feels like github is becoming a social network for developers
  - bitbasher 2y ago
    Give it a few more years and we'll have LinkedIn-like developer feeds.
    - qiine 2y ago
      Why do you give away nightmarish ideas for free ?
- queenkjuul 2y ago
  The wikis are backed by git repos, i just moved my project wiki from GitHub to self-hosted, took just minutes Issues and PR comments are another story though
  - rurban 2y ago
    Issues and PR are covered in git-bug bridges, easily mirrored to other forges. But since all other forges still suck compared to github, everybody uses github.

sublimefire 2y ago

My thoughts as well. Microsoft is just one of the companies, Google is no better either. Any OSS component could be bought and made non free, any free project provided by Google etc could change the licence and prevent you from using it, similar happened recently. I think it is great that people use GitHub as it has a low barrier of entry, if anything happens the stuff can quickly be moved elsewhere. Until then we can piggyback on the free platform. Using some other company does not make it immediately safer anyway. The challenge here is more about archiving, especially those rarely used repos. In any case GH is safe as MS is focussing more on AI now and they do not have a good alternative to GitHub to think about turning it off like Skype yet.

guappa 2y ago
The CI stuff and the fact that you can't really export bugreports and similar things are their lock in.
- myaccountonhn 2y ago
  Also the fact that all your team knows how to use is Github pull requests, and they will whine like crazy if you move to a different model.
  - guappa 2y ago
    Good news! Codeberg has pull requests!
    - myaccountonhn 2y ago
      Codeberg is only for Foss projects thou
      - guappa 2y ago
        Did you even read the title of the article? Let alone the content…

guappa 2y ago

> Maintaining my own servers You could just use codeberg. But you immediately had to jump to the most difficult alternative.

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myaccountonhn 2y ago

I think this works, but if you use their wiki, issue, actions etc. Its going to be harder to migrate off of it. Basically avoid the vendor lockin functionality.

nottorp 2y ago

> I don't believe there's any major harm in using Github for most projects. Actually there was one mentioned in a different post. You're at the mercy of Microsoft (and random US sanctions) not only for your project, where you have a copy of the source and are the canonical source for further updates, but also for your dependencies.