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It is far from universally accepted that 'the current interpretation of diversity is of outward characteristics, not points of view'. In fact, I would be surpri

by rocqua 2y ago

It is far from universally accepted that 'the current interpretation of diversity is of outward characteristics, not points of view'. In fact, I would be surprised if anyone who favors DEI aggrees with that statement. Moreover, the actual interpretation of most proponents of diversity is very much that we desire a diversity of views, which it wants to get through getting a diversity of backgrounds. That is, of course, not the only reason behind DEI. There is also the fact that it is fair to allow people of all backgrounds the same opportunity.

ToValueFunfetti 2y ago
Wikipedia[1] says >Diversity refers to the presence of variety within the organizational workforce in characteristics such as race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, disability, age, culture, class, veteran status, or religion. Brittanica[2] says >Diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs—meant to address historical and systemic disparities based on race, gender, age, ability, and sexual orientation in the workplace CNN lists the following as examples of the title of this article[3] ("DEI programs benefit many groups, not just Black and brown communities"): >White women >LGBTQ+ people >Families who need IVF >Disabled people >Veterans This is the first three links I clicked on, so it seems to be broadly agreed upon. It's (obviously) not an exhaustive search of the literature, and I'd love to see your side of it. I have heard ideological diversity used as a defense of DEI, but it doesn't seem to be central. I've never heard of a DEI push to get more conservatives in tech or academia, for example. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity,_equity,_and_inclusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity,_equity,_and_inclusi... [2]https://www.britannica.com/topic/diversity-equity-and-inclusion-programs https://www.britannica.com/topic/diversity-equity-and-inclus... [3]https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/08/us/dei-programs-diversity-list/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/08/us/dei-programs-diversity-lis...
zdragnar 2y ago
Try talking about race as a white man during a DEI seminar. Unless you very carefully follow the approved messaging, you will be in trouble.
- phatskat 1y ago
  I doubt you’ll be “in trouble”, whatever that means. But I do think that if you’re a white man attending a seminar about diversity, a great option is to just _listen_. Understanding that white men have done a lot of the talking on race for most of America’s history means it would behove him to listen.

by rocqua 2y ago

ToValueFunfetti 2y ago

Wikipedia[1] says >Diversity refers to the presence of variety within the organizational workforce in characteristics such as race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, disability, age, culture, class, veteran status, or religion. Brittanica[2] says >Diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs—meant to address historical and systemic disparities based on race, gender, age, ability, and sexual orientation in the workplace CNN lists the following as examples of the title of this article[3] ("DEI programs benefit many groups, not just Black and brown communities"): >White women >LGBTQ+ people >Families who need IVF >Disabled people >Veterans This is the first three links I clicked on, so it seems to be broadly agreed upon. It's (obviously) not an exhaustive search of the literature, and I'd love to see your side of it. I have heard ideological diversity used as a defense of DEI, but it doesn't seem to be central. I've never heard of a DEI push to get more conservatives in tech or academia, for example. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity,_equity,_and_inclusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity,_equity,_and_inclusi... [2]https://www.britannica.com/topic/diversity-equity-and-inclusion-programs https://www.britannica.com/topic/diversity-equity-and-inclus... [3]https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/08/us/dei-programs-diversity-list/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/08/us/dei-programs-diversity-lis...

zdragnar 2y ago

Try talking about race as a white man during a DEI seminar. Unless you very carefully follow the approved messaging, you will be in trouble.

phatskat 1y ago
I doubt you’ll be “in trouble”, whatever that means. But I do think that if you’re a white man attending a seminar about diversity, a great option is to just _listen_. Understanding that white men have done a lot of the talking on race for most of America’s history means it would behove him to listen.