5 ms·

This is the frustration that leads to getting a dictator wanna-be elected President. People are SICK SICK SICK of these shenanigans and seriously want it to ch

This is the frustration that leads to getting a dictator wanna-be elected President. People are SICK SICK SICK of these shenanigans and seriously want it to change.

quickthrowman 2y ago
But the person they voted for is normalizing these sorts of things, they voted FOR more corruption and self-dealing.
- Whoppertime 2y ago
  Do you mean the people who voted for Donald Trump or the people who voted for "Fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma which gave a lucrative position to Hunter Biden" or "10% for the Big Guy held by H"? Just to clarify what you're talking about when you talk about voting for more corruption and self-dealing
  - quickthrowman 2y ago
    I mean the guy that is shaking down law firms and countries and universities and immigrants. The guy that launched a multi billion dollar pump and dump crypto scheme on the eve of his inauguration. The guy that is almost certainly selling pardons to people like the former CEO of Nikola. The guy that is possibly tipping off his friends and donors about when a tweet of his will send the stock market up 10%. I don’t give a shit about Hunter Biden, he wasn’t the president. Nepotism happens everywhere, good luck stopping it. Hunter Biden is a crackhead and shouldn’t have had the position he did, but he is a sideshow to distract you. Trump himself was impeached for withholding foreign aid from Ukraine to try and boost his reelection chances, but you conveniently left that part out. I’ll admit it was partly political, but it still happened. If the Biden family was doing corrupt things like receiving bribes, by all means prosecute them. If there’s evidence Joe Biden got kickbacks from Burisma, the DoJ should file charges. There’s not a personality cult for Biden like there is for Trump. Trying to compare an actual convicted felon who is nakedly corrupt in public vs a guy who has a few accusations is ridiculous in the same way as presenting young earth creationism as equally valid as the universe being 13.7B years old. It’s “but both sides!” at its worst. Joe Biden is no saint, he’s a politician after all, but he’s not even close to Trump. Bob Menendez (D, NJ) is much closer to Trump than Biden, he was actually tried and convicted for corruption. I’m glad he was found guilty.
    - Whoppertime 2y ago
      We can't prosecute the Biden family because they all got pre-emptive pardons. https://youtu.be/4EpUpC9fCSg https://youtu.be/4EpUpC9fCSg Did Trump actually withhold foreign aid from Ukraine, or did he threaten to do so? https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY Because if it was threatening to cut funding this is a pot calling the kettle black situation https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/11/us/politics/trump-ukraine-timeline.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/11/us/politics/trump-ukraine... And checking this NYTimes timeline, they say that the funds were released on September 20th. So the funding to Ukraine was not withheld, but delayed. The exact same thing that Joe Biden was doing. Saying in all caps "It's a great time to buy" before the stock market goes up 10% isn't insider trading, it's a politician delivering on his promises immediately.
  - antifa 2y ago
    Interesting that you're concerned about a guy who allegedly nepo'd his son into a job but not concerned about the guy who openly nepo'd multiple children/relatives into federal government positions. Seems like if you genuinely cared about the Biden molehill you'd care even more about the Trump mountain?
CamperBob2 2y ago
How does electing a dictator who promises "Vote for me and I will make it worse" help, though? That's the part I don't get. If the dictator promised to round up these CEOs and send them to El Salvador without a trial, that would be one thing... but the opposite is true, and I think the electorate understood that well enough.
- beej71 2y ago
  Some people feel that anything different must be better. But they are unfortunately incorrect.
- HumblyTossed 2y ago
  Because people are desperate for something to change. The status quo is literally killing people. I'm not saying I agree with their voting decision, but I can, in part, understand their frustration.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
  - anderber 2y ago
    You can never doubt that things can get a lot worse, no matter how bad they currently are. This is what we're finding out now.
  - simonh 2y ago
    So they vote for the party that eviscerated the ACA and defends the medical insurance industry. Look at Trump’s talking points. It’s all about immigrants, foreigners and wokeism that are coming to get what you have. The US is a wealthy, prosperous nation, and I think even lower income segments of the US population are aware they’re night and day better off than people in the same economic segment in the countries immigrants come from. Wanting more is part of it, but it’s mainly about not sharing what Americans have, even though it’s not actually under threat. That doesn’t matter, people still feel threatened. I’m a Brit. My mother is a wealthy middle class retired woman in a safe idyllic bit of countryside, but she is utterly obsessed with foreigners coming to rape and steal and destroy British society. They’re all coming to get us. She reads in the papers (The Daily Mail) and sees it on TV (GB News) every day.
throwawaysleep 2y ago
So they vote for the shenanigans? As that’s what they did. The American people basically legalized fraud and looting for the next four years.
- api 2y ago
  They vote for the person who is not saying "we will continue business as usual," which has been the Democrat message. The Democrats have succeeded at suppressing the populist wing of their party, which led to them being defeated by the populist wing of the Republican Party.
  - Whoppertime 2y ago
    People wouldn't be saying "they basically legalized fraud and looting for the next four years" if Bernie Sanders was President. People don't really see the populist left and populist right the same way.
    - api 2y ago
      Sanders was not a choice. I didn’t vote for Trump but I get it and him winning doesn’t surprise me.
      - salawat 2y ago
        And whose fault is that? The DNC's. You had a man explicitly calling out so much of what ails this country, and instead of elevating him, they shunned him because think of the billionaire donors. FAFO of the highest order.
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
  - LeafItAlone 2y ago
    Well that was very short sighted. Because the other person was clearly saying how they’d make it much much worse. But nobody had ever accused the voting public of the U.S. of being able to see the past the end of their nose. https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2024/project-2025-could-become-a-political-reality-that-would-upend-medical-practice/ https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2024/project-2025-could...

This is the frustration that leads to getting a dictator wanna-be elected President. People are SICK SICK SICK of these shenanigans and seriously want it to change.

quickthrowman 2y ago

But the person they voted for is normalizing these sorts of things, they voted FOR more corruption and self-dealing.

Whoppertime 2y ago
Do you mean the people who voted for Donald Trump or the people who voted for "Fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma which gave a lucrative position to Hunter Biden" or "10% for the Big Guy held by H"? Just to clarify what you're talking about when you talk about voting for more corruption and self-dealing
- quickthrowman 2y ago
  I mean the guy that is shaking down law firms and countries and universities and immigrants. The guy that launched a multi billion dollar pump and dump crypto scheme on the eve of his inauguration. The guy that is almost certainly selling pardons to people like the former CEO of Nikola. The guy that is possibly tipping off his friends and donors about when a tweet of his will send the stock market up 10%. I don’t give a shit about Hunter Biden, he wasn’t the president. Nepotism happens everywhere, good luck stopping it. Hunter Biden is a crackhead and shouldn’t have had the position he did, but he is a sideshow to distract you. Trump himself was impeached for withholding foreign aid from Ukraine to try and boost his reelection chances, but you conveniently left that part out. I’ll admit it was partly political, but it still happened. If the Biden family was doing corrupt things like receiving bribes, by all means prosecute them. If there’s evidence Joe Biden got kickbacks from Burisma, the DoJ should file charges. There’s not a personality cult for Biden like there is for Trump. Trying to compare an actual convicted felon who is nakedly corrupt in public vs a guy who has a few accusations is ridiculous in the same way as presenting young earth creationism as equally valid as the universe being 13.7B years old. It’s “but both sides!” at its worst. Joe Biden is no saint, he’s a politician after all, but he’s not even close to Trump. Bob Menendez (D, NJ) is much closer to Trump than Biden, he was actually tried and convicted for corruption. I’m glad he was found guilty.
  - Whoppertime 2y ago
    We can't prosecute the Biden family because they all got pre-emptive pardons. https://youtu.be/4EpUpC9fCSg https://youtu.be/4EpUpC9fCSg Did Trump actually withhold foreign aid from Ukraine, or did he threaten to do so? https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY Because if it was threatening to cut funding this is a pot calling the kettle black situation https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/11/us/politics/trump-ukraine-timeline.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/11/us/politics/trump-ukraine... And checking this NYTimes timeline, they say that the funds were released on September 20th. So the funding to Ukraine was not withheld, but delayed. The exact same thing that Joe Biden was doing. Saying in all caps "It's a great time to buy" before the stock market goes up 10% isn't insider trading, it's a politician delivering on his promises immediately.
- antifa 2y ago
  Interesting that you're concerned about a guy who allegedly nepo'd his son into a job but not concerned about the guy who openly nepo'd multiple children/relatives into federal government positions. Seems like if you genuinely cared about the Biden molehill you'd care even more about the Trump mountain?

CamperBob2 2y ago

How does electing a dictator who promises "Vote for me and I will make it worse" help, though? That's the part I don't get. If the dictator promised to round up these CEOs and send them to El Salvador without a trial, that would be one thing... but the opposite is true, and I think the electorate understood that well enough.

beej71 2y ago
Some people feel that anything different must be better. But they are unfortunately incorrect.
HumblyTossed 2y ago
Because people are desperate for something to change. The status quo is literally killing people. I'm not saying I agree with their voting decision, but I can, in part, understand their frustration.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- anderber 2y ago
  You can never doubt that things can get a lot worse, no matter how bad they currently are. This is what we're finding out now.
- simonh 2y ago
  So they vote for the party that eviscerated the ACA and defends the medical insurance industry. Look at Trump’s talking points. It’s all about immigrants, foreigners and wokeism that are coming to get what you have. The US is a wealthy, prosperous nation, and I think even lower income segments of the US population are aware they’re night and day better off than people in the same economic segment in the countries immigrants come from. Wanting more is part of it, but it’s mainly about not sharing what Americans have, even though it’s not actually under threat. That doesn’t matter, people still feel threatened. I’m a Brit. My mother is a wealthy middle class retired woman in a safe idyllic bit of countryside, but she is utterly obsessed with foreigners coming to rape and steal and destroy British society. They’re all coming to get us. She reads in the papers (The Daily Mail) and sees it on TV (GB News) every day.

throwawaysleep 2y ago

So they vote for the shenanigans? As that’s what they did. The American people basically legalized fraud and looting for the next four years.

api 2y ago
They vote for the person who is not saying "we will continue business as usual," which has been the Democrat message. The Democrats have succeeded at suppressing the populist wing of their party, which led to them being defeated by the populist wing of the Republican Party.
- Whoppertime 2y ago
  People wouldn't be saying "they basically legalized fraud and looting for the next four years" if Bernie Sanders was President. People don't really see the populist left and populist right the same way.
  - api 2y ago
    Sanders was not a choice. I didn’t vote for Trump but I get it and him winning doesn’t surprise me.
    - salawat 2y ago
      And whose fault is that? The DNC's. You had a man explicitly calling out so much of what ails this country, and instead of elevating him, they shunned him because think of the billionaire donors. FAFO of the highest order.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
- LeafItAlone 2y ago
  Well that was very short sighted. Because the other person was clearly saying how they’d make it much much worse. But nobody had ever accused the voting public of the U.S. of being able to see the past the end of their nose. https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2024/project-2025-could-become-a-political-reality-that-would-upend-medical-practice/ https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2024/project-2025-could...