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So you are comparing existing, actual waste with your "imaginary" waste that might or might not happen... Go easy on the kool aid.

by yuppii 1y ago

aqme28 1y ago
I'm no fan of the Pentagon and certainly think it's a money sieve, but why are you asserting that this $5.1B is "actual waste" and also not imaginary?
- danparsonson 1y ago
  They're not, they're saying that GP imagines genuine waste-saving will happen, when in fact it's more likely to be fabricated "waste" conjured up by Elmo and his army of teenagers.
  - timschmidt 1y ago
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- jimbob45 1y ago
  Deloitte and Accenture would be considered the worst US companies if Monsanto/Bayer and Nestlé didn’t exist. Their work is always waste.
  - searine 1y ago
    Why are they the worst? Genuinely curious.
    - _factor 1y ago
      Nestle deliberately poisoned baby formula with fake protein to fool third world countries testing it. Malnourishing infants and causing deaths on what shouldn’t have to be a regulated industry in a sane world. Their president also publicly stated water is not a human right, implying we should let people die if they can’t purchase water from capitalists. Monsanto will sue you after their “patented” seeds float onto your field and germinate, basically leaving you no options besides using their seed after their local lobbying manipulated the courts to their side. I’m sure there’s more and worse hidden away.
itsoktocry 1y ago
>existing, actual waste Where are you getting that this is "actual" waste, because you read some mean things about consultants? Go easy on the kool aid.
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cpursley 1y ago
I don't totally trust this DOGE crew and think we should keep a hawks eye on them but the whole "they are cutting waste so they can funnel the money to themselves!" conspiracy theories making the rounds are pretty bizarre... And to what end, aren't many of these people already extremely wealthy? I sure hope I'm wrong.
- mupuff1234 1y ago
  Not totally bizarre given some actually bizarre stuff like trump & malania crypto coins or DJT.
- InDubioProRubio 1y ago
  You do not become that, by quitting on the waver thin mint.
- pjc50 1y ago
  Current budget appears to be (via https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tax-cuts-2025-budget-reconciliation/ https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tax-cut... ) > $5.3 trillion in deficit-financed tax cuts (the combination of $3.8 trillion of tax cuts assumed to be “costless” under a current policy baseline plus $1.5 trillion in additional deficits permitted), deficit increases of $521 billion on defense and immigration spending, a minimum of $4 billion in spending cuts, and an increase in the debt limit of up to $5 trillion. So savings plus new borrowing will be funded to tax cuts, which will likely prioritize those already on higher incomes, and corporations.
- muttonhead 1y ago
  Because the amoral drive for extreme wealth doesn't stop at a certain level of wealth
  - BoingBoomTschak 1y ago
    If you have to explain your conspiracy theory with "the majority of these people suffers from the same special kind of neuroticism", I suggest you get back to your whiteboard. Or you can keep living in a Disney reality where uncle Scrooges are the norm and not the exception.
hn-acct 1y ago
Remind me in 6 months.
- pests 1y ago
  Won't even have to wait that long. Elon will be stepping down at the end of his special employee tenure in a month or two in which he expects to save $1T.
atoav 1y ago
How would you know it is actual waste? This government has a track record of cutting things regardless of their importance, so you can't rely on the fact they did it alone, so what is your source?
spamizbad 1y ago
We don't know if they're actually cutting waste here. DOGE has already had to do a massive climb-down from saving $1000B to saving $105B, but most of that $105B has not been shown to be true. Actual cuts may only amount to a few billion.
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  > Actual cuts may only amount to a few billion. And that's assuming the cuts don't have any fiscally counterproductive knock-on effects. Which they certainly will.
  - thechao 1y ago
    Do we even have a way of estimating the billions it will cost to resecuritize our infrastructure? What about the cost in lost soft power? The total knock on effect in loss to the economy for not subsidizing basic research, that led to the U.S. being a major power in medicine & pharma? This is the very definition of penny-wise–pound-foolish.
- throwaway29812 1y ago
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So you are comparing existing, actual waste with your "imaginary" waste that might or might not happen... Go easy on the kool aid.

by yuppii 1y ago

So you are comparing existing, actual waste with your "imaginary" waste that might or might not happen... Go easy on the kool aid.

aqme28 1y ago

I'm no fan of the Pentagon and certainly think it's a money sieve, but why are you asserting that this $5.1B is "actual waste" and also not imaginary?

danparsonson 1y ago
They're not, they're saying that GP imagines genuine waste-saving will happen, when in fact it's more likely to be fabricated "waste" conjured up by Elmo and his army of teenagers.
- timschmidt 1y ago
  [flagged]
jimbob45 1y ago
Deloitte and Accenture would be considered the worst US companies if Monsanto/Bayer and Nestlé didn’t exist. Their work is always waste.
- searine 1y ago
  Why are they the worst? Genuinely curious.
  - _factor 1y ago
    Nestle deliberately poisoned baby formula with fake protein to fool third world countries testing it. Malnourishing infants and causing deaths on what shouldn’t have to be a regulated industry in a sane world. Their president also publicly stated water is not a human right, implying we should let people die if they can’t purchase water from capitalists. Monsanto will sue you after their “patented” seeds float onto your field and germinate, basically leaving you no options besides using their seed after their local lobbying manipulated the courts to their side. I’m sure there’s more and worse hidden away.

itsoktocry 1y ago

>existing, actual waste Where are you getting that this is "actual" waste, because you read some mean things about consultants? Go easy on the kool aid.

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cpursley 1y ago

I don't totally trust this DOGE crew and think we should keep a hawks eye on them but the whole "they are cutting waste so they can funnel the money to themselves!" conspiracy theories making the rounds are pretty bizarre... And to what end, aren't many of these people already extremely wealthy? I sure hope I'm wrong.

mupuff1234 1y ago
Not totally bizarre given some actually bizarre stuff like trump & malania crypto coins or DJT.
InDubioProRubio 1y ago
You do not become that, by quitting on the waver thin mint.
pjc50 1y ago
Current budget appears to be (via https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tax-cuts-2025-budget-reconciliation/ https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tax-cut... ) > $5.3 trillion in deficit-financed tax cuts (the combination of $3.8 trillion of tax cuts assumed to be “costless” under a current policy baseline plus $1.5 trillion in additional deficits permitted), deficit increases of $521 billion on defense and immigration spending, a minimum of $4 billion in spending cuts, and an increase in the debt limit of up to $5 trillion. So savings plus new borrowing will be funded to tax cuts, which will likely prioritize those already on higher incomes, and corporations.
muttonhead 1y ago
Because the amoral drive for extreme wealth doesn't stop at a certain level of wealth
- BoingBoomTschak 1y ago
  If you have to explain your conspiracy theory with "the majority of these people suffers from the same special kind of neuroticism", I suggest you get back to your whiteboard. Or you can keep living in a Disney reality where uncle Scrooges are the norm and not the exception.

hn-acct 1y ago

Remind me in 6 months.

pests 1y ago
Won't even have to wait that long. Elon will be stepping down at the end of his special employee tenure in a month or two in which he expects to save $1T.

atoav 1y ago

How would you know it is actual waste? This government has a track record of cutting things regardless of their importance, so you can't rely on the fact they did it alone, so what is your source?

spamizbad 1y ago

We don't know if they're actually cutting waste here. DOGE has already had to do a massive climb-down from saving $1000B to saving $105B, but most of that $105B has not been shown to be true. Actual cuts may only amount to a few billion.

ceejayoz 1y ago
> Actual cuts may only amount to a few billion. And that's assuming the cuts don't have any fiscally counterproductive knock-on effects. Which they certainly will.
- thechao 1y ago
  Do we even have a way of estimating the billions it will cost to resecuritize our infrastructure? What about the cost in lost soft power? The total knock on effect in loss to the economy for not subsidizing basic research, that led to the U.S. being a major power in medicine & pharma? This is the very definition of penny-wise–pound-foolish.
throwaway29812 1y ago
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