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The land of the free which wants to force companies to install a mandatory on-device scanning of your communication? The land of the free which wants to break e

The land of the free which wants to force companies to install a mandatory on-device scanning of your communication? The land of the free which wants to break end to end encryption and allow the government to spy on you? We have wildly different definitions of "free". https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/03/eu_backdoor_encryption/ https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/03/eu_backdoor_encryptio...

palata 2y ago
> which wants to force companies to install a mandatory on-device scanning of your communication? To be fair, it's only in discussions now, it hasn't been voted AFAIK and it hasn't been implemented. Compare that to the NSA... ever heard of Snowden?
- nickslaughter02 2y ago
  > To be fair, it's only in discussions now, it hasn't been voted AFAIK and it hasn't been implemented. Correct but ChatControl now has a majority among EU Commissioners. The fact that something like this is even proposed in the "free" land and the people responsible not laughed out of the room is sickening. > Compare that to the NSA... ever heard of Snowden? Spying on your unencrypted communication? That's not comparable + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
  - palata 2y ago
    > Spying on your unencrypted communication? Either you're in bad faith, or you actually don't know how it works in the US and what the NSA was (probably is still) doing.
    - nickslaughter02 2y ago
      Do tell.
      - palata 2y ago
        For instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Revelations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Revelations
  - disgruntledphd2 2y ago
    > Correct but ChatControl now has a majority among EU Commissioners. The fact that something like this is even proposed in the "free" land and the people responsible not laughed out of the room is sickening. I agree that this is terrible, but based on prior ECJ rulings, this will almost certainly be struck down if it's ever passed.
jusssi 2y ago
Pot, kettle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EARN_IT_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EARN_IT_Act

palata 2y ago

> which wants to force companies to install a mandatory on-device scanning of your communication? To be fair, it's only in discussions now, it hasn't been voted AFAIK and it hasn't been implemented. Compare that to the NSA... ever heard of Snowden?

nickslaughter02 2y ago
> To be fair, it's only in discussions now, it hasn't been voted AFAIK and it hasn't been implemented. Correct but ChatControl now has a majority among EU Commissioners. The fact that something like this is even proposed in the "free" land and the people responsible not laughed out of the room is sickening. > Compare that to the NSA... ever heard of Snowden? Spying on your unencrypted communication? That's not comparable + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
- palata 2y ago
  > Spying on your unencrypted communication? Either you're in bad faith, or you actually don't know how it works in the US and what the NSA was (probably is still) doing.
  - nickslaughter02 2y ago
    Do tell.
    - palata 2y ago
      For instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Revelations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Revelations
- disgruntledphd2 2y ago
  > Correct but ChatControl now has a majority among EU Commissioners. The fact that something like this is even proposed in the "free" land and the people responsible not laughed out of the room is sickening. I agree that this is terrible, but based on prior ECJ rulings, this will almost certainly be struck down if it's ever passed.

jusssi 2y ago

Pot, kettle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EARN_IT_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EARN_IT_Act