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MusiCoT, a chain-of-thought (CoT) prompting technique for music generation [pdf]
- gnabgib 2y agoDo you think you're, perhaps over doing self-the promotion? > Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff part of the time, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html (4 subs, 2 weeks) https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=musicot.github.io https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=musicot.github.io (3 subs, 1 week/5 subs, 1 month) https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=github.com%2Finclusionai https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=github.com%2Finclusio... (3 subs 1 week) https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=mainfunc.ai https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=mainfunc.ai (2 subs, 2 weeks) https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=mureka.ai https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=mureka.ai (4 subs, 3 months) https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=trae.ai https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=trae.ai (approaching ∞ subs) https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=pingcap.com https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=pingcap.com
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- jinqueeny 2y agoSorry. I will restrain myself.
- Palmik 2y agoI did not see this paper on the front page before. It seems like a genuine contribution. And do you think it's better or worse than this: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=0&prefix=true&query=author%3Asimonw%20simonwillison.net&sort=byDate&type=all https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=0&prefix=tr... -- posting a link to their website >2 a day, in 23% of their posts/comments.
- laborcontract 2y agoThat's pretty amusing. I'm all for personal reposts as well as self simonw's blog-linking so long as they're relevant.
- 1oooqooq 2y agoai is not going to push itself... oh wait.
- itchyjunk 2y agoIt doesn't seem to be the same content being pushed each time. Someone posting their book or the same article once a week vs posting new content each week is not the same to me. To me, it's not obvious that it's against the rule. Especially when the content seems to be engaging enough for it to make to FP.
- yxchng 2y agoThis company has a track record of cheating on benchmark by training on test datasets. Take it with pinch of salt and try the model yourself.
- bilekas 2y ago> This company has a track record of cheating on benchmark by training on test datasets. That's a really bold statement to make without any references, could you by any chance add some references for us not in the know ?
- yxchng 2y agoMostly anecdotal and also based on the large gap between benchmark performance and actual performance on personal use
- earthnail 2y agoI think saying "track record" is then factually wrong. Merriam Webster defines track record as: "a record of past performance often taken as an indicator of likely future performance". In that case, you should be able to point to the record. I assume you will still stand behind the essence of your comment. In that case, it would be better to say "Based on my experience on playing with their models, I have strong reasons to believe that they continuously cheat on benchmarks by training on test datasets." You can then also add that this maps with what you hear from others in the field.
- itchyjunk 2y agoHmm, even if the model performed poorly on real world task vs benchmark, it doesn't necessarily imply they train on the benchmarks themselves, right? They did the train, test split properly. Didn't train on the test. But the benchmark itself was bad at representing real world tasks? Is so, seems pretty wild to accuse a company of training on test data.. maybe this is "vibe commenting" and I'm just out of loop.
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- zaptrem 2y agoI work on music models, and this is a very cool paper! There are no papers that go into depth on how token-based AR music models (that aren't absurdly inefficient like Yue) are trained. I'm particularly interested in your semantic tokens. I tried reproducing the CTC loss part but my curve was very spikey and didn't seem to actually figure out any characters. The semantic tokens gave great acoustic info but gibberish lyrics. What did your CTC loss curves look like and did you see anything similar at any point? As a semi-aside, I feel like semantic tokens in general may end up being a bottleneck on how interesting model outputs can be.
- minihat 2y agoHow is it possible that text-to-score/notation is lagging text-to-audio in music generation? Generating audio seems wildly more complicated! Since you are working in this space, I wonder if you could comment on my pet theories for why this is true: 1. Not enough training data (scores not available for most songs), or 2. Difficulty with tokenization of musical notation vs. audio
- balivandi 2y agoCan you recommend any music models that can expand a composition I wrote into a full length symphony?
- heeen2 2y agoI can't comment on the merit of the technical aspects, but I feel like of all the AI generated content, especially AI generated music is as interesting as AI generated memoirs - sort of pointless. It lacks the human element that makes it relatable on an emotional level.
- mbrock 2y agosometimes I specifically want to hear music that doesn't have any emotional content
- import 2y agoIndustrial techno is exactly this
- pearlsontheroad 2y agoI think boredom is still an emotion
- import 2y agoYou can listen to generic health insurance advertisement music maybe?
- TheRealQueequeg 2y agoIt's giving Daniel Ek a hard-on. Finally, he can replace those arrogant musicians who demand to be paid for their work. /s
- earthnail 2y agoWhat's giving Daniel Ek a hard-on is that the music industry realised AI isn't a big threat. AI first made Spotify's stock plummet from $300 to under $80, and once the realisation kicked in that the music industry is more about fame (i.e. real people other people want to relate to) than music itself, the stock price climbed up to $600.
- MSFT_Edging 2y agoSo when is AI going to do useful work no one wants to do instead of doing the art people enjoy doing.
- thunky 2y agoAgree, but many more people listen to music than create it. And people that enjoy creating art will still do it regardless. A better example of the problem imo is the robot advertised to watch your kids so you can work.
- jarbus 2y ago> And people that enjoy creating art will still do it regardless. Some people will, but for me, I could never justify spending time and money to learn something an AI could do better than me. I'd constantly feel like I'm wasting my time.
- itchyjunk 2y agoPeople still calligraph even though we have printer. People will actively spend money in a hobby they like. It's totally fair that you personally might not want to do it anymore if AI can, but I think parent was saying other people will continue to do it if they enjoy it. There are tons of people who create copy right free music anyways. Talking about those type of people. :)
- jarbus 2y agoI agree, but there's probably a lot of people who would love calligraphy who never even try it out, because it seems useless.
- rTX5CMRXIfFG 2y agoYou will be able to once you change your success indicator from profit to the simple joy of learning and making
- AIPedant 2y agoWere there any examples of "de novo" music generation using this? The only one I could find on the website was translating the vocals of an existing song, couldn't find any AI compositions.
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