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it's a tool that increases efficiency if you know how to use it. learn how to do it and it'll make your job easier and you become more productive. fight or igno

it's a tool that increases efficiency if you know how to use it. learn how to do it and it'll make your job easier and you become more productive. fight or ignore it and you'll be replaced because you're not doing your job properly don't listen to ignorant luddite technophobes on the internet, they are like all -phobes intolerant, full of hate and fearful of things they don't understand

somanyphotons 1y ago
> if you know how to use it. This is the problem though, too many people are too trusting of the output.
- simonw 1y ago
  Right, and those people really need to learn not to do that.
  - bluefirebrand 1y ago
    This reminds me of an old post somewhere "Everyone will not just" If your solution to any problem includes the phrase "If everyone would just X" then you don't have a real solution, because there is no future where "everyone will just X" "Everyone just needs to learn not to trust the AI so readily" That isn't a real solution. Everyone will not just become more skeptical and better at critical thinking
    - simonw 1y ago
      I don't think those are the same problem. "If only everyone would just do X" where X is a thing that has a positive benefit is unrealistic. "If only people would learn not to do Y" where Y is a thing which actively hurts them and which they can learn the negative consequences over time feels a whole lot less impossible to me. If your co-worker pulls this crap, tell them not to. Complain about it in performance reviews. Replace them with someone who writes good code.
      - bluefirebrand 1y ago
        > Complain about it in performance reviews The last time I brought up concerns with a coworkers performance in a review I was fired a couple of weeks later It turned out he was good buddies with my boss's boss There are a lot of mechanisms in society preventing a lot of people from feeling the negative consequences of their poor work I wish it were so easy as you say
- zb3 1y ago
  Furthermore I see that AI is optimizing exactly for that.. the "acceptance rate" doesn't actually measure whether the code is correct..
dijksterhuis 1y ago
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- normanthreep 1y ago
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  - District5524 1y ago
    Why do other people's criticism ("talking shit") destroy your fun? They make you unsure of your opinion? If you believe this emotional investment in AI tools gives you a competitive edge in the long run, then so much the better for you. AI tools should work the same way with or without your love. The only difference is that if you have fun using these tools, you'll be better motivated to use these tools better then the others. (Regardless, existing knowledge probably helps more in using these tools effectively in the longer run than pure fun.)
bluefirebrand 1y ago
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- franktankbank 1y ago
  He's trolling.
  - arcanemachiner 1y ago
    I envy your optimism...
  - add-sub-mul-div 1y ago
    It's so hard to tell anymore, how do you create parody when the ceiling has gone away for the stupidity of sincere mainstream takes?
- normanthreep 1y ago
  when the shoe fits
- deleted 1y ago
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somanyphotons 1y ago

> if you know how to use it. This is the problem though, too many people are too trusting of the output.

simonw 1y ago
Right, and those people really need to learn not to do that.
- bluefirebrand 1y ago
  This reminds me of an old post somewhere "Everyone will not just" If your solution to any problem includes the phrase "If everyone would just X" then you don't have a real solution, because there is no future where "everyone will just X" "Everyone just needs to learn not to trust the AI so readily" That isn't a real solution. Everyone will not just become more skeptical and better at critical thinking
  - simonw 1y ago
    I don't think those are the same problem. "If only everyone would just do X" where X is a thing that has a positive benefit is unrealistic. "If only people would learn not to do Y" where Y is a thing which actively hurts them and which they can learn the negative consequences over time feels a whole lot less impossible to me. If your co-worker pulls this crap, tell them not to. Complain about it in performance reviews. Replace them with someone who writes good code.
    - bluefirebrand 1y ago
      > Complain about it in performance reviews The last time I brought up concerns with a coworkers performance in a review I was fired a couple of weeks later It turned out he was good buddies with my boss's boss There are a lot of mechanisms in society preventing a lot of people from feeling the negative consequences of their poor work I wish it were so easy as you say
zb3 1y ago
Furthermore I see that AI is optimizing exactly for that.. the "acceptance rate" doesn't actually measure whether the code is correct..

dijksterhuis 1y ago

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normanthreep 1y ago
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- District5524 1y ago
  Why do other people's criticism ("talking shit") destroy your fun? They make you unsure of your opinion? If you believe this emotional investment in AI tools gives you a competitive edge in the long run, then so much the better for you. AI tools should work the same way with or without your love. The only difference is that if you have fun using these tools, you'll be better motivated to use these tools better then the others. (Regardless, existing knowledge probably helps more in using these tools effectively in the longer run than pure fun.)

bluefirebrand 1y ago

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franktankbank 1y ago
He's trolling.
- arcanemachiner 1y ago
  I envy your optimism...
- add-sub-mul-div 1y ago
  It's so hard to tell anymore, how do you create parody when the ceiling has gone away for the stupidity of sincere mainstream takes?
normanthreep 1y ago
when the shoe fits
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