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Jetbrains still likes to gaslight you and say you are wrong about bugs or features. Recent example the removal of the commit modal.

switch007 2y ago
The whole New UI debacle really set the tone and expectations and I don't see them changing. They seem like a different company these days? Maybe I didn't really notice in the past.
- conradfr 2y ago
  For me it was when they were copying Adobe UIs and removed colors from icons because "it was distracting". Nowadays they copy Vs code instead.
- SkyPuncher 2y ago
  JetBrains is dead within 5 years unless they can get their AI game figured out (which they’re not). Don’t get me wrong, I love JetBrains products. However, there value has been almost exclusively in QoL for dev. AI is drastically cutting the need for that.
hanikesn 2y ago
What when is this going to be finally removed? I'm still reverting back to the old dialog on every machine.
- conradfr 2y ago
  In the next release currently in beta, but they relented to move it to an unsupported plugin. Not sure if the idea.properties setting which still works will be removed. https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IJPL-177161/Modal-commit-moved-to-a-separate-plugin-in-2025.1-Discussion https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IJPL-177161/Modal-commi...
kg 2y ago
The jetbrains model is every new release fixes that one critical bug that's killing you, and adds 2 new critical bugs that will drive you mad. I eventually got fed up and jumped off that train.
- sfn42 2y ago
  Not really sure what you guys are talking about. I've been using Rider for years and it's been great. I'm using the new UI and I have no problems with commits or anything else. Recently joined a new team where I have to use VS because we have to work through a remote desktop where I can't install new stuff without a lengthy process, and having used VS for a while now it's so much worse. I miss Rider practically every second I'm writing code. There is nothing that I need that VS does better, it's either the same or usually worse for everything I do. I hope I'll get a bit more used to it over time but so far I hate it. Feels like it's significantly reducing my velocity compared to Rider.
- homebrewer 2y ago
  Where to? There's nothing even remotely comparable for many tech stacks. I've been looking for alternatives for many years (also being fed up with their disregard for bugs and performance), but there are none (expect for proper VS for Windows-first C++/C#).
  - kevingadd 2y ago
    Sadly, I just accepted having worse productivity. I didn't really have a choice, their bugs were actively breaking my workflow, like causing builds to fail. It definitely made me more frustrated and less productive on a day-to-day basis.
  - pjmlp 2y ago
    Eclipse and Netbeans for Java, QtCreator for C and C++ cross-platform, and VS if on Windows. If it really must be, VSCode for everything else. I never was a JetBrains fan, especially given the Android Studio experience, glad that is no longer a concern.
hulitu 2y ago
> Jetbrains still likes to gaslight you and say you are wrong about bugs or features. They learned from the best: Microsoft. Microsoft cannot fix bugs because it's "engineers" are busy rounding corners in UI elements.

switch007 2y ago

The whole New UI debacle really set the tone and expectations and I don't see them changing. They seem like a different company these days? Maybe I didn't really notice in the past.

conradfr 2y ago
For me it was when they were copying Adobe UIs and removed colors from icons because "it was distracting". Nowadays they copy Vs code instead.
SkyPuncher 2y ago
JetBrains is dead within 5 years unless they can get their AI game figured out (which they’re not). Don’t get me wrong, I love JetBrains products. However, there value has been almost exclusively in QoL for dev. AI is drastically cutting the need for that.

hanikesn 2y ago

What when is this going to be finally removed? I'm still reverting back to the old dialog on every machine.

conradfr 2y ago
In the next release currently in beta, but they relented to move it to an unsupported plugin. Not sure if the idea.properties setting which still works will be removed. https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IJPL-177161/Modal-commit-moved-to-a-separate-plugin-in-2025.1-Discussion https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IJPL-177161/Modal-commi...

kg 2y ago

The jetbrains model is every new release fixes that one critical bug that's killing you, and adds 2 new critical bugs that will drive you mad. I eventually got fed up and jumped off that train.

sfn42 2y ago
Not really sure what you guys are talking about. I've been using Rider for years and it's been great. I'm using the new UI and I have no problems with commits or anything else. Recently joined a new team where I have to use VS because we have to work through a remote desktop where I can't install new stuff without a lengthy process, and having used VS for a while now it's so much worse. I miss Rider practically every second I'm writing code. There is nothing that I need that VS does better, it's either the same or usually worse for everything I do. I hope I'll get a bit more used to it over time but so far I hate it. Feels like it's significantly reducing my velocity compared to Rider.
homebrewer 2y ago
Where to? There's nothing even remotely comparable for many tech stacks. I've been looking for alternatives for many years (also being fed up with their disregard for bugs and performance), but there are none (expect for proper VS for Windows-first C++/C#).
- kevingadd 2y ago
  Sadly, I just accepted having worse productivity. I didn't really have a choice, their bugs were actively breaking my workflow, like causing builds to fail. It definitely made me more frustrated and less productive on a day-to-day basis.
- pjmlp 2y ago
  Eclipse and Netbeans for Java, QtCreator for C and C++ cross-platform, and VS if on Windows. If it really must be, VSCode for everything else. I never was a JetBrains fan, especially given the Android Studio experience, glad that is no longer a concern.

hulitu 2y ago

> Jetbrains still likes to gaslight you and say you are wrong about bugs or features. They learned from the best: Microsoft. Microsoft cannot fix bugs because it's "engineers" are busy rounding corners in UI elements.