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Far be it from me to interrupt your both-sides deflection but I’d like to ask you to cite any report in the recent past when democrats have called for the arres

Far be it from me to interrupt your both-sides deflection but I’d like to ask you to cite any report in the recent past when democrats have called for the arrest or use of violence and/or the military against protesters

just_steve_h 2y ago
Perhaps you slept through the year leading up to the 2024 election, when Democrats sent riot police into student protests? They arrested thousands, and were plenty violent. Democratic president & governor & mayor (NYC and LA and Boston, for example). Or perhaps you missed the Occupy movement which was violently disrupted on a national scale with coordinated raids across the country, organized through the “Fusion Centers” (FBI + DHS + State & Local law enforcement)? Anyhow, my point here is that organized violence against leftist protestors is a fully bipartisan policy, and has been for more than 100 years.
kelipso 2y ago
You just forgot the Palestine protests or what.
- malcolmgreaves 2y ago
  They didn’t call for mad violence against protestors. They didn’t call for arresting protestors. I imagine you won’t admit you have no evidence based in reality.
  - jauntywundrkind 2y ago
    And they didn't have Dem backed companies surveilling and trying to track protestors.
  - kelipso 2y ago
    They definitely called for arresting protesters. People don’t forget that easily lol. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4637548-democrats-split-over-campus-protest-crackdown/ https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4637548-democrats-split-...
    - malcolmgreaves 2y ago
      No. You’re being willfully ignorant at this point. There’s a difference between convicting people of crimes and arresting protestors because one side doesn’t like what they’re saying. The republicans are literally kidnapping people who have committed no crimes but are exercising their first amendment right to free speech, writing and publishing their political views. These people are now being held in inhumane conditions. This is stage one of torture: dehumanize. And you’re dodging the more pressing and serious issues: republicans in government are advocating of using violence against protestors they don’t like. You’re avoiding this because deep down you know you have no logical nor ethical standing.
      - kelipso 2y ago
        You need to stop accusing me of made up things derived from your paranoid delusions lol. Democrats wanted the protesters in jail and they put them in jail be they didn’t like what the protesters said. It really was that simple, so stop making things up from your fantasies so you can imagine this is something new and special or try to “win” some internet argument by accusing people of things that exist only in your imagination.
generalizations 2y ago
The trick is to call them something else. The January 6 protesters come to mind, but since they actually threatened the lawmakers - not just random proles - they aren't called "protesters". Conversely, make sure the BLM folks are definitely not called rioters, even if you have to call them "fiery but peaceful" protestors.
- malcolmgreaves 2y ago
  Insurrectionists are not protestors.
  - generalizations 2y ago
    > The trick is to call them something else If it's politically expedient, that is. For one thing, they were far less violent than the BLM protesters. Yet one group is called 'protestors' and the other 'insurrectionists'.
    - orwin 2y ago
      Didn't they kill one police officer? Or was it two? In a single afternoon? Please tell me how many police officer did the BLM protesters killed per day, just to confirm how violent they were.
      - generalizations 2y ago
        If you go look it up, it was zero, IIRC. Don't believe everything you're told. How many arsonists were among the j6 folks?
        malcolmgreaves 2y ago
        You’re in too deep into the fake conspiracy theories and lies. Please seek professional help and come back to reality
        2y ago
raxxorraxor 2y ago
Are you serious? Surveillance has been on the agenda at least for 25 years. Maybe Trump is president because his opposition cannot match his very, very smart mental capacities as they tumble to make such topics some bipartisan issue. Perhaps you can argue that Trumps ideas are worse, but that never creates a smart argument.

just_steve_h 2y ago

Perhaps you slept through the year leading up to the 2024 election, when Democrats sent riot police into student protests? They arrested thousands, and were plenty violent. Democratic president & governor & mayor (NYC and LA and Boston, for example). Or perhaps you missed the Occupy movement which was violently disrupted on a national scale with coordinated raids across the country, organized through the “Fusion Centers” (FBI + DHS + State & Local law enforcement)? Anyhow, my point here is that organized violence against leftist protestors is a fully bipartisan policy, and has been for more than 100 years.

kelipso 2y ago

You just forgot the Palestine protests or what.

malcolmgreaves 2y ago
They didn’t call for mad violence against protestors. They didn’t call for arresting protestors. I imagine you won’t admit you have no evidence based in reality.
- jauntywundrkind 2y ago
  And they didn't have Dem backed companies surveilling and trying to track protestors.
- kelipso 2y ago
  They definitely called for arresting protesters. People don’t forget that easily lol. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4637548-democrats-split-over-campus-protest-crackdown/ https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4637548-democrats-split-...
  - malcolmgreaves 2y ago
    No. You’re being willfully ignorant at this point. There’s a difference between convicting people of crimes and arresting protestors because one side doesn’t like what they’re saying. The republicans are literally kidnapping people who have committed no crimes but are exercising their first amendment right to free speech, writing and publishing their political views. These people are now being held in inhumane conditions. This is stage one of torture: dehumanize. And you’re dodging the more pressing and serious issues: republicans in government are advocating of using violence against protestors they don’t like. You’re avoiding this because deep down you know you have no logical nor ethical standing.
    - kelipso 2y ago
      You need to stop accusing me of made up things derived from your paranoid delusions lol. Democrats wanted the protesters in jail and they put them in jail be they didn’t like what the protesters said. It really was that simple, so stop making things up from your fantasies so you can imagine this is something new and special or try to “win” some internet argument by accusing people of things that exist only in your imagination.

generalizations 2y ago

The trick is to call them something else. The January 6 protesters come to mind, but since they actually threatened the lawmakers - not just random proles - they aren't called "protesters". Conversely, make sure the BLM folks are definitely not called rioters, even if you have to call them "fiery but peaceful" protestors.

malcolmgreaves 2y ago
Insurrectionists are not protestors.
- generalizations 2y ago
  > The trick is to call them something else If it's politically expedient, that is. For one thing, they were far less violent than the BLM protesters. Yet one group is called 'protestors' and the other 'insurrectionists'.
  - orwin 2y ago
    Didn't they kill one police officer? Or was it two? In a single afternoon? Please tell me how many police officer did the BLM protesters killed per day, just to confirm how violent they were.
    - generalizations 2y ago
      If you go look it up, it was zero, IIRC. Don't believe everything you're told. How many arsonists were among the j6 folks?
      - malcolmgreaves 2y ago
        You’re in too deep into the fake conspiracy theories and lies. Please seek professional help and come back to reality
        2y ago

raxxorraxor 2y ago

Are you serious? Surveillance has been on the agenda at least for 25 years. Maybe Trump is president because his opposition cannot match his very, very smart mental capacities as they tumble to make such topics some bipartisan issue. Perhaps you can argue that Trumps ideas are worse, but that never creates a smart argument.