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Apple's mouse is so bad Tim Cook uses another brand at work (2024)

38 points by mandeepj 2y ago

duxup 2y ago
Like keyboards and monitors I think Apple has long since been ok with most folks not using Apple devices for those uses. If you want some stylish things there ya go. More specific features, yeah go get that.
t-writescode 2y ago
I don't think the Apple Mouse is intended to compete with any power-user mouse like The Logitech MX 3 or any gaming mouse from Razer, Logitech, whoever. It's meant to compete with the junky little thing you get with your PC that's wired, with who-knows-what DPI and 3 buttons at best. It's meant to be something that slips into your laptop bag and doesn't add *any* more bulk than the laptop itself. So, editorialized, "of course" he's not going to be using an entry level mouse for power user usage. That doesn't change the reality of how good or bad Apple's mouse is because it's not being sold to a power user. From what I've seen, power users tend to use that magic track pad thing, if they're Apple power users using Apple things.
- jillyboel 2y ago
  That's why they charge more for it than many of the superior alternatives do?
  - t-writescode 2y ago
    They're Apple doing Apple things. While many of their products are reasonably priced when compared against the alternative, they're also very famous for having outlandish prices if you, for example, increase drive storage. It's known as the Apple Tax because it's common.
- arvinsim 2y ago
  I disagree about it being marketed only to non-power users. It can't even compete on ergonomics vs everyday mouse. Non-power users have complained about getting RSI because of it.
- JohnBooty 2y ago
  junky little thing you get with your PC that's wired What are your experiences here? Mine is that generic ultra-cheap wired optical mice have been Totally Fine™ now for roughly 20 years! It's a completely solved problem. They track fine, they have more than enough DPI for anybody except maybe hardcore twitch action gamers, and they all have vaguely ergonomic sculpted shapes. Apple's mice lose out for me before I move the pointer because the first thing I notice is that the shape of the mouse itself has more or less no correlation with the shape of a human hand. It always feels like you're grasping some weird foreign object.
- bitsandboots 2y ago
  > It's meant to compete with the junky little thing you get with your PC that's wired, with who-knows-what DPI and 3 buttons at best. Of all the strange things Apple decides to compete in, why would Apple be trying to compete with logitech at twice the price? Honestly don't know why Apple bothers with peripherals though, its not like their keyboards are worth writing home about either.
gnabgib 2y ago
(2024) Verge story Tim Cook says he uses every Apple product every day — how does that work? (https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/22/24276142/tim-cook-wsj-interview-every-apple-product-every-day https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/22/24276142/tim-cook-wsj-in...) > I mostly use a Logitech MX Master 3 but sometimes switch to a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad for funsies. Which references a WSJ story, but either that was edited, or the link is wrong https://www.wsj.com/style/tim-cook-interview-apple-intelligence-vision-pro-48c59018 https://www.wsj.com/style/tim-cook-interview-apple-intellige... https://archive.is/3TwLu https://archive.is/3TwLu
mattl 2y ago
People love to dunk on the USB port being on the bottom. The USB port isn’t the issue: you plug in your mouse, go make a cup of coffee or go get your lunch and your mouse is fine in a few minutes. The bigger issue is that it’s not a very nice to use mouse. Apple mice haven’t been good in a while. Magic Trackpad on the other hand is fantastic.
- ndiddy 2y ago
  People dunk on the USB port being on the bottom because it's an example of how comically opinionated Apple's design is. Even if it only takes a few minutes to charge, Apple decided to make the mouse unusable during those few minutes because they don't want people using their wireless mouse as a wired mouse.
  - mattl 2y ago
    I don’t think it’s that: I think it’s just an uncomfortable mouse that used to run on a pair of Duracell batteries and they did a quick job to replace that with a rechargeable battery.
- happytoexplain 2y ago
  I rarely see something this hard to relate to - I think I'm pretty open-minded. I don't get 10% as angry as most people regarding e.g. removing the audio jack, the MacBook USB power port, the touch bar, the shape of the mouse, lack of side-loading on iOS, app store rules, etc etc. Those were/are all bad - but I also see the other side of all of them. The USB port being on the bottom of the mouse isn't in that list. It's like seeing insanity in a physical form. It's unaccountable.
  - mattl 2y ago
    The bottom is the best place for it. It would look really bad on the top and the rest of the mouse is kinda thin. Also the port is a retrofit over the previous model which took a pair of AA batteries. It’s not some terrible design choice from Apple, it’s a lazy revision to an old removable battery mouse without much effort needed to update the plastic tooling to make it.
tombert 2y ago
When I worked at Apple, I didn't use the Apple mouse either. I used a USB gaming mouse that fit my hand a bit better. I wasn't the only one, and it wasn't weird in the office. Most people didn't use Apple monitors either, I believe mine was an LG, though I don't remember for sure. I think there's this perception that Apple is this authoritarian company that will execute you for using any competitors' product, but that really wasn't the case. When COVID hit, I bought a giant Samsung TV to use as a monitor, expensed it, and it was approved within the same day. For the first six months I was there, I used an Android, and it worked fine enough for that, even for 2FA stuff. I don't really blame Tim Cook for using a different brand of mouse. It doesn't even imply that it's bad, just not the one he uses. I will complain about my time at Apple all the time, but this is not something that I thought they were bad about.
- tylerflick 2y ago
  But the Apple Mouse is terrible (ergonomically at least). I’m confused why a company so focused on accessibility has ignored iterating on this product.
  - tombert 2y ago
    I know people who actually like it. I've never been a fan, I don't like the little scroll clit that it has, I've always plugged in a USB mouse, but there are definitely people who like it. I think it's like the IBM keyboard nipple. I have one on my Thinkpad, but I never use it, but I know some people who refuse to use anything else. ETA: I never liked the multitouch mice either.
    - PlunderBunny 2y ago
      Are you confusing the Apple Mouse and the (Apple) Magic Mouse?
      - tombert 2y ago
        Yep, I think I am, I did an ETA at the end there, though I didn't like either of them.
owenversteeg 2y ago
For those that don’t want to click on this mostly contentless article, it’s the MX Master 3. I also have one and I can confirm that it’s a hell of a mouse. I would recommend it for nearly every type of intensive computer work: web browser stuff, CAD, software development, spreadsheets, editing tasks, anything really. I’ve had people try to convince me to switch before and I never believed it’d make a difference until eventually a friend (mechanical engineer) just gave me hers and now I can’t live without it. Tip, if you don’t want to use the Logitech bloatware the apps LinearMouse and Mac Mouse Fix are both open source and help you get some of the advanced functionality back.
- callc 2y ago
  Same here. I love mine. The only thing I would wish for in a v4 is faster polling rate. I think it’s 1000 hz now. So not the best for gaming.
  - db48x 2y ago
    I rather like the MX Master to, but I wish that they made a wired mouse in the same shape. After a few years the battery capacity has dropped and I feel like I am charging it every other night.
    - seec 2y ago
      Fundamentaly wireless products without easily replaceable batteries are products made to benefit the company more than the user. Even if we accept that wireless is "better", having the battery easily swappable in a few seconds would cost nothing and make the product much better. And I don't think cables are that big of a problem on mouse, especially if they are correctly engineered with enough length, you just don't notice them and it's more a look thing that anything else really. This is particularly true if you heavily use the computer and the mouse, the benefits of wireless are badly counterbalanced by the annoyance of battery management. Freedom has a cost that is not always really worth it. At least in the MX Master case you can use it wired if you wish, so it's not too bad.
weikju 2y ago
I thought this was debunked last year? [0] > Soon after, The Verge's Wes Davis attempted to replicate using every Apple product in a single day. During that day, Davis said he mostly used the MX Master 3, but sometimes switched to a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad. > In other words, it was Davis who said he himself used a Logitech mouse, not Cook. As usual though, rebuttals/acquittals/etc never get as much traction as the original bs or accusations... [0] https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that...
beloch 2y ago
Given that Apple was the first home computer maker to offer mice, it's odd how they've lagged behind pretty much ever since. e.g. For a brief while they sold perfectly round "puck" mice that you had to look at to orient every time you grasped them (These are the worst mice I've ever used.). If you didn't grasp them just right, X and Y would become a nausea-inducing mix of XY and YX. It also took Apple decades to finally admit that, yes, at least some users would like more than one button on their mouse. Who else honestly thought that they'd have moved the charging port on their current mice by now? It's been the same since the 90's. If you buy a mac, the first thing you should do is replace the mouse.
- an0malous 2y ago
  They haven’t lagged behind, they started designing around a trackpad which has more gesture affordances and is consistent with their other devices. I use their Magic Trackpad and prefer it over a mouse
  - wruza 2y ago
    The mouse could still be useful though. Apple mouse is just horrible in most regards, and no trackpad can offset this fact, despite being a head and a half above any competition.
  - bitsandboots 2y ago
    I disagree, but you know having different preferences is fine. I think the trackpad of the macbook is the worst trackpad I've ever used, typing from an m1 mbp right now and wish it had distinct right & left mouse buttons. But the nice thing is you can buy a variety of form factors that suit your needs. Unless its Apple, in which you get basically one thing take it or leave it.
- CRConrad 2y ago
  > Who else honestly thought that they'd have moved the charging port on their current mice by now? I remeber that hullaballo a few years ago, when they introduced a mouse with the charging port on the bottom, so you couldn't charge it and use it at the same time. Are you saying they still build them that way?!?
Glyptodon 2y ago
I'm convinced one of their (Apple's) mice basically permanently messed up my wrist from ~ 1 month of use.
xyst 2y ago
Apple accessories are a joke, except for maybe the touchpad (Magic Pad? — I don’t care enough to search or waste llm query)
maronato 2y ago
Why is this fake news blogspam here? Its source was retracted, its text is AI slop, the embedded video is AI slop, the related articles are all AI variations of the same “news” trying to game SEO. No, Tim Cook doesn’t use a Logitech at work. This is a misinterpretation of an article from last November: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that...
whalesalad 2y ago
I have the vertical oriented mouse and it’s great. Have the regular one too (collecting dust)
oefrha 2y ago
This is extremely shameless AI-generated blogspam? The post literally links to three more slight variations of the same post under "Similar Posts": - Is Apple’s mouse so bad that even Tim Cook prefers using a different brand ? (sic, can't even get spaces right in the title) - Apple’s mouse is so bad that Tim Cook prefers using a different brand for work. - Apple’s Own Mouse Falls Short, Even Tim Cook Opts for Another Brand Shit editing elsewhere gives it away too, like literally missing the very first character in the first paragraph. While the topic is somewhat interesting, this kind of garbage site should be flagged and killed. Edit: Turns out the whole premise is blatantly false in the first place, according to the top comment of an earlier submission of the same blogspam (flagged): > This is apparently a misattribution: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that... > > The Wall Street Journal last month published an interview with Cook, in which he said he uses every Apple product every day. Soon after, The Verge's Wes Davis attempted to replicate using every Apple product in a single day. During that day, Davis said he mostly used the MX Master 3, but sometimes switched to a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad. > > In other words, it was Davis who said he himself used a Logitech mouse, not Cook. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42168280 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42168280
k310 2y ago
I can't stop the magic mouse from vertical scrolling in GIMP, which zooms the view insanely in and out when the command key is down, or which blasts my fine tracing job to hell at times. I can't stop horizontal scrolling when I absolutely don't want it. I tried all the mouse settings and probed the mysteries of GIMP key remapping (it still may be there) Excellent resolution, but sometimes freaky to use. I really don't want to pay for software to fix all this. I got an MX keys keyboard because Apple doesn't sell a lighted one except in laptops.
brailsafe 2y ago
Probably AI slop, numerous similar things on the same non-topic on the same site. "In a recent Wall Street Journal Interview"... which one? Does it exist? Probably not. No link. Nonsense. Flagging.
syspec 2y ago
Am I the only one in the world who absolutely loves the Magic Mouse. Aside from gaming it's just so comfortable, scrolling is a dream with inertia no one else has figured out how to mimic, and the gestures are natural. Plus horizontally scrolling on long lines of code (or terminal output) is unbeatable.
- PlunderBunny 2y ago
  I find the Magic Mouse a bit too small for my hand, but the touch surface inertial scrolling is so good I wouldn't switch to anything else on that basis alone.
- JohnBooty 2y ago
  Am I the only one in the world who absolutely loves the Magic Mouse. You are honestly the only fan I've really heard of. (I don't think that's bad or wrong. Input devices are very personal. I am glad they work for you)
- senordevnyc 2y ago
  No, you’re not. I love the Magic Mouse and I’ve been using it religiously as a SWE for like 15 years now.
- nittanymount 2y ago
  I like the magic mouse a lot too. before this one, I used the dell mouse for years, have to bent the wrist. and hurt over time. after switching to apple magic mouse. it has been no problem for years !
schmookeeg 2y ago
I have plenty of reasons to be annoyed at Apple, but this is NOT one of them. A mouse is a tactile and highly personal choice and F this article for trying to demonize Tim Apple and his preferred input device.
TechRemarker 2y ago
False: https://wccftech.com/tim-cool-does-not-prefer-logitech-mx-master-3/ https://wccftech.com/tim-cool-does-not-prefer-logitech-mx-ma...
onewheeltom 2y ago
Love my Magic Mouse. Even with the charging port on the bottom. Whats the big deal? Plug it in and do something else for a while.

38 points by mandeepj 2y ago

Like keyboards and monitors I think Apple has long since been ok with most folks not using Apple devices for those uses. If you want some stylish things there ya go. More specific features, yeah go get that.

t-writescode 2y ago

I don't think the Apple Mouse is intended to compete with any power-user mouse like The Logitech MX 3 or any gaming mouse from Razer, Logitech, whoever. It's meant to compete with the junky little thing you get with your PC that's wired, with who-knows-what DPI and 3 buttons at best. It's meant to be something that slips into your laptop bag and doesn't add *any* more bulk than the laptop itself. So, editorialized, "of course" he's not going to be using an entry level mouse for power user usage. That doesn't change the reality of how good or bad Apple's mouse is because it's not being sold to a power user. From what I've seen, power users tend to use that magic track pad thing, if they're Apple power users using Apple things.

jillyboel 2y ago
That's why they charge more for it than many of the superior alternatives do?
- t-writescode 2y ago
  They're Apple doing Apple things. While many of their products are reasonably priced when compared against the alternative, they're also very famous for having outlandish prices if you, for example, increase drive storage. It's known as the Apple Tax because it's common.
arvinsim 2y ago
I disagree about it being marketed only to non-power users. It can't even compete on ergonomics vs everyday mouse. Non-power users have complained about getting RSI because of it.
JohnBooty 2y ago
junky little thing you get with your PC that's wired What are your experiences here? Mine is that generic ultra-cheap wired optical mice have been Totally Fine™ now for roughly 20 years! It's a completely solved problem. They track fine, they have more than enough DPI for anybody except maybe hardcore twitch action gamers, and they all have vaguely ergonomic sculpted shapes. Apple's mice lose out for me before I move the pointer because the first thing I notice is that the shape of the mouse itself has more or less no correlation with the shape of a human hand. It always feels like you're grasping some weird foreign object.
bitsandboots 2y ago
> It's meant to compete with the junky little thing you get with your PC that's wired, with who-knows-what DPI and 3 buttons at best. Of all the strange things Apple decides to compete in, why would Apple be trying to compete with logitech at twice the price? Honestly don't know why Apple bothers with peripherals though, its not like their keyboards are worth writing home about either.

gnabgib 2y ago

(2024) Verge story Tim Cook says he uses every Apple product every day — how does that work? (https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/22/24276142/tim-cook-wsj-interview-every-apple-product-every-day https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/22/24276142/tim-cook-wsj-in...) > I mostly use a Logitech MX Master 3 but sometimes switch to a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad for funsies. Which references a WSJ story, but either that was edited, or the link is wrong https://www.wsj.com/style/tim-cook-interview-apple-intelligence-vision-pro-48c59018 https://www.wsj.com/style/tim-cook-interview-apple-intellige... https://archive.is/3TwLu https://archive.is/3TwLu

mattl 2y ago

People love to dunk on the USB port being on the bottom. The USB port isn’t the issue: you plug in your mouse, go make a cup of coffee or go get your lunch and your mouse is fine in a few minutes. The bigger issue is that it’s not a very nice to use mouse. Apple mice haven’t been good in a while. Magic Trackpad on the other hand is fantastic.

ndiddy 2y ago
People dunk on the USB port being on the bottom because it's an example of how comically opinionated Apple's design is. Even if it only takes a few minutes to charge, Apple decided to make the mouse unusable during those few minutes because they don't want people using their wireless mouse as a wired mouse.
- mattl 2y ago
  I don’t think it’s that: I think it’s just an uncomfortable mouse that used to run on a pair of Duracell batteries and they did a quick job to replace that with a rechargeable battery.
happytoexplain 2y ago
I rarely see something this hard to relate to - I think I'm pretty open-minded. I don't get 10% as angry as most people regarding e.g. removing the audio jack, the MacBook USB power port, the touch bar, the shape of the mouse, lack of side-loading on iOS, app store rules, etc etc. Those were/are all bad - but I also see the other side of all of them. The USB port being on the bottom of the mouse isn't in that list. It's like seeing insanity in a physical form. It's unaccountable.
- mattl 2y ago
  The bottom is the best place for it. It would look really bad on the top and the rest of the mouse is kinda thin. Also the port is a retrofit over the previous model which took a pair of AA batteries. It’s not some terrible design choice from Apple, it’s a lazy revision to an old removable battery mouse without much effort needed to update the plastic tooling to make it.

tombert 2y ago

When I worked at Apple, I didn't use the Apple mouse either. I used a USB gaming mouse that fit my hand a bit better. I wasn't the only one, and it wasn't weird in the office. Most people didn't use Apple monitors either, I believe mine was an LG, though I don't remember for sure. I think there's this perception that Apple is this authoritarian company that will execute you for using any competitors' product, but that really wasn't the case. When COVID hit, I bought a giant Samsung TV to use as a monitor, expensed it, and it was approved within the same day. For the first six months I was there, I used an Android, and it worked fine enough for that, even for 2FA stuff. I don't really blame Tim Cook for using a different brand of mouse. It doesn't even imply that it's bad, just not the one he uses. I will complain about my time at Apple all the time, but this is not something that I thought they were bad about.

tylerflick 2y ago
But the Apple Mouse is terrible (ergonomically at least). I’m confused why a company so focused on accessibility has ignored iterating on this product.
- tombert 2y ago
  I know people who actually like it. I've never been a fan, I don't like the little scroll clit that it has, I've always plugged in a USB mouse, but there are definitely people who like it. I think it's like the IBM keyboard nipple. I have one on my Thinkpad, but I never use it, but I know some people who refuse to use anything else. ETA: I never liked the multitouch mice either.
  - PlunderBunny 2y ago
    Are you confusing the Apple Mouse and the (Apple) Magic Mouse?
    - tombert 2y ago
      Yep, I think I am, I did an ETA at the end there, though I didn't like either of them.

owenversteeg 2y ago

For those that don’t want to click on this mostly contentless article, it’s the MX Master 3. I also have one and I can confirm that it’s a hell of a mouse. I would recommend it for nearly every type of intensive computer work: web browser stuff, CAD, software development, spreadsheets, editing tasks, anything really. I’ve had people try to convince me to switch before and I never believed it’d make a difference until eventually a friend (mechanical engineer) just gave me hers and now I can’t live without it. Tip, if you don’t want to use the Logitech bloatware the apps LinearMouse and Mac Mouse Fix are both open source and help you get some of the advanced functionality back.

callc 2y ago
Same here. I love mine. The only thing I would wish for in a v4 is faster polling rate. I think it’s 1000 hz now. So not the best for gaming.
- db48x 2y ago
  I rather like the MX Master to, but I wish that they made a wired mouse in the same shape. After a few years the battery capacity has dropped and I feel like I am charging it every other night.
  - seec 2y ago
    Fundamentaly wireless products without easily replaceable batteries are products made to benefit the company more than the user. Even if we accept that wireless is "better", having the battery easily swappable in a few seconds would cost nothing and make the product much better. And I don't think cables are that big of a problem on mouse, especially if they are correctly engineered with enough length, you just don't notice them and it's more a look thing that anything else really. This is particularly true if you heavily use the computer and the mouse, the benefits of wireless are badly counterbalanced by the annoyance of battery management. Freedom has a cost that is not always really worth it. At least in the MX Master case you can use it wired if you wish, so it's not too bad.

weikju 2y ago

I thought this was debunked last year? [0] > Soon after, The Verge's Wes Davis attempted to replicate using every Apple product in a single day. During that day, Davis said he mostly used the MX Master 3, but sometimes switched to a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad. > In other words, it was Davis who said he himself used a Logitech mouse, not Cook. As usual though, rebuttals/acquittals/etc never get as much traction as the original bs or accusations... [0] https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that...

beloch 2y ago

Given that Apple was the first home computer maker to offer mice, it's odd how they've lagged behind pretty much ever since. e.g. For a brief while they sold perfectly round "puck" mice that you had to look at to orient every time you grasped them (These are the worst mice I've ever used.). If you didn't grasp them just right, X and Y would become a nausea-inducing mix of XY and YX. It also took Apple decades to finally admit that, yes, at least some users would like more than one button on their mouse. Who else honestly thought that they'd have moved the charging port on their current mice by now? It's been the same since the 90's. If you buy a mac, the first thing you should do is replace the mouse.

an0malous 2y ago
They haven’t lagged behind, they started designing around a trackpad which has more gesture affordances and is consistent with their other devices. I use their Magic Trackpad and prefer it over a mouse
- wruza 2y ago
  The mouse could still be useful though. Apple mouse is just horrible in most regards, and no trackpad can offset this fact, despite being a head and a half above any competition.
- bitsandboots 2y ago
  I disagree, but you know having different preferences is fine. I think the trackpad of the macbook is the worst trackpad I've ever used, typing from an m1 mbp right now and wish it had distinct right & left mouse buttons. But the nice thing is you can buy a variety of form factors that suit your needs. Unless its Apple, in which you get basically one thing take it or leave it.
CRConrad 2y ago
> Who else honestly thought that they'd have moved the charging port on their current mice by now? I remeber that hullaballo a few years ago, when they introduced a mouse with the charging port on the bottom, so you couldn't charge it and use it at the same time. Are you saying they still build them that way?!?

Glyptodon 2y ago

I'm convinced one of their (Apple's) mice basically permanently messed up my wrist from ~ 1 month of use.

xyst 2y ago

Apple accessories are a joke, except for maybe the touchpad (Magic Pad? — I don’t care enough to search or waste llm query)

maronato 2y ago

Why is this fake news blogspam here? Its source was retracted, its text is AI slop, the embedded video is AI slop, the related articles are all AI variations of the same “news” trying to game SEO. No, Tim Cook doesn’t use a Logitech at work. This is a misinterpretation of an article from last November: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that...

whalesalad 2y ago

I have the vertical oriented mouse and it’s great. Have the regular one too (collecting dust)

oefrha 2y ago

This is extremely shameless AI-generated blogspam? The post literally links to three more slight variations of the same post under "Similar Posts": - Is Apple’s mouse so bad that even Tim Cook prefers using a different brand ? (sic, can't even get spaces right in the title) - Apple’s mouse is so bad that Tim Cook prefers using a different brand for work. - Apple’s Own Mouse Falls Short, Even Tim Cook Opts for Another Brand Shit editing elsewhere gives it away too, like literally missing the very first character in the first paragraph. While the topic is somewhat interesting, this kind of garbage site should be flagged and killed. Edit: Turns out the whole premise is blatantly false in the first place, according to the top comment of an earlier submission of the same blogspam (flagged): > This is apparently a misattribution: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/11/17/tim-cook-didnt-say-that... > > The Wall Street Journal last month published an interview with Cook, in which he said he uses every Apple product every day. Soon after, The Verge's Wes Davis attempted to replicate using every Apple product in a single day. During that day, Davis said he mostly used the MX Master 3, but sometimes switched to a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad. > > In other words, it was Davis who said he himself used a Logitech mouse, not Cook. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42168280 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42168280

k310 2y ago

I can't stop the magic mouse from vertical scrolling in GIMP, which zooms the view insanely in and out when the command key is down, or which blasts my fine tracing job to hell at times. I can't stop horizontal scrolling when I absolutely don't want it. I tried all the mouse settings and probed the mysteries of GIMP key remapping (it still may be there) Excellent resolution, but sometimes freaky to use. I really don't want to pay for software to fix all this. I got an MX keys keyboard because Apple doesn't sell a lighted one except in laptops.

brailsafe 2y ago

Probably AI slop, numerous similar things on the same non-topic on the same site. "In a recent Wall Street Journal Interview"... which one? Does it exist? Probably not. No link. Nonsense. Flagging.

syspec 2y ago

Am I the only one in the world who absolutely loves the Magic Mouse. Aside from gaming it's just so comfortable, scrolling is a dream with inertia no one else has figured out how to mimic, and the gestures are natural. Plus horizontally scrolling on long lines of code (or terminal output) is unbeatable.

PlunderBunny 2y ago
I find the Magic Mouse a bit too small for my hand, but the touch surface inertial scrolling is so good I wouldn't switch to anything else on that basis alone.
JohnBooty 2y ago
Am I the only one in the world who absolutely loves the Magic Mouse. You are honestly the only fan I've really heard of. (I don't think that's bad or wrong. Input devices are very personal. I am glad they work for you)
senordevnyc 2y ago
No, you’re not. I love the Magic Mouse and I’ve been using it religiously as a SWE for like 15 years now.
nittanymount 2y ago
I like the magic mouse a lot too. before this one, I used the dell mouse for years, have to bent the wrist. and hurt over time. after switching to apple magic mouse. it has been no problem for years !

schmookeeg 2y ago

I have plenty of reasons to be annoyed at Apple, but this is NOT one of them. A mouse is a tactile and highly personal choice and F this article for trying to demonize Tim Apple and his preferred input device.

TechRemarker 2y ago

False: https://wccftech.com/tim-cool-does-not-prefer-logitech-mx-master-3/ https://wccftech.com/tim-cool-does-not-prefer-logitech-mx-ma...

onewheeltom 2y ago

Love my Magic Mouse. Even with the charging port on the bottom. Whats the big deal? Plug it in and do something else for a while.