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I have no pretense they did this in a calculated or intentional way, but I think it's actually probably the correct move given the lack of controlled burns nowd

I have no pretense they did this in a calculated or intentional way, but I think it's actually probably the correct move given the lack of controlled burns nowdays.

dghlsakjg 2y ago
Logging an area doesn’t necessarily decrease the fire danger. If you go to cut blocks in the PNW you’ll notice huge piles of slash in every cut block. There are ways to log that do decrease fire risk, but generally those are not the techniques used in industrial logging since they are less profitable and tend to leave quite a few trees standing. Here’s a good primer that lays out the basicshttps://davidsuzuki.org/expert-article/will-logging-more-in-healthy-forests-reduce-wildfire-risk/ https://davidsuzuki.org/expert-article/will-logging-more-in-...
0_____0 2y ago
Fuel reduction for wildfire mitigation, if that's what you are referring to, doesn't focus on mature trees, which are pretty important for the long term health of forests. This doesn't so much address the health of forest ecosystems so much as remove them, which really fucks stuff up. Habitat destruction, changes to waterways and luvial fauna, soil erosion. We already do a lot of timber farming, like a lot of DT policies it's hard not to read this as a simply spiteful move.
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idiotsecant 2y ago
Timber harvest doesn't work as an alternative to forest fires. This is timber industry propaganda. It produces shallow ecosystems and monoculture forests. Forest fires work just fine, and we continue to have them every year whether we do controlled burns or not. Many species rely on the natural fire cycle and we shouldn't try to prevent fires through timber harvest, it just makes fires and erosion and biodiversity worse.
- no_wizard 2y ago
  This. Don’t buy into the propaganda. Honestly I’d love to see the world move away from timber to an easier to manage renewable resource. Whatever happened to those homes made out of 100% recycled material?
  - idiotsecant 2y ago
    Timber is great as a building material, so long as we source it responsibly, with an eye towards sustainable harvest and minimal ecological impact. It can be done, it's just not as cheap as letting the timber companies do whatever they want.
  - hjgjhyuhy 2y ago
    Sustainable forestry is possible, and using wood harvested from such forests in buildings is very climate friendly. It’s one of the best ways to capture carbon for a long time. But of course it requires regulation by effective government, which USA no longer has.

I have no pretense they did this in a calculated or intentional way, but I think it's actually probably the correct move given the lack of controlled burns nowdays.

dghlsakjg 2y ago

Logging an area doesn’t necessarily decrease the fire danger. If you go to cut blocks in the PNW you’ll notice huge piles of slash in every cut block. There are ways to log that do decrease fire risk, but generally those are not the techniques used in industrial logging since they are less profitable and tend to leave quite a few trees standing. Here’s a good primer that lays out the basicshttps://davidsuzuki.org/expert-article/will-logging-more-in-healthy-forests-reduce-wildfire-risk/ https://davidsuzuki.org/expert-article/will-logging-more-in-...

0_____0 2y ago

Fuel reduction for wildfire mitigation, if that's what you are referring to, doesn't focus on mature trees, which are pretty important for the long term health of forests. This doesn't so much address the health of forest ecosystems so much as remove them, which really fucks stuff up. Habitat destruction, changes to waterways and luvial fauna, soil erosion. We already do a lot of timber farming, like a lot of DT policies it's hard not to read this as a simply spiteful move.

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idiotsecant 2y ago

Timber harvest doesn't work as an alternative to forest fires. This is timber industry propaganda. It produces shallow ecosystems and monoculture forests. Forest fires work just fine, and we continue to have them every year whether we do controlled burns or not. Many species rely on the natural fire cycle and we shouldn't try to prevent fires through timber harvest, it just makes fires and erosion and biodiversity worse.

no_wizard 2y ago
This. Don’t buy into the propaganda. Honestly I’d love to see the world move away from timber to an easier to manage renewable resource. Whatever happened to those homes made out of 100% recycled material?
- idiotsecant 2y ago
  Timber is great as a building material, so long as we source it responsibly, with an eye towards sustainable harvest and minimal ecological impact. It can be done, it's just not as cheap as letting the timber companies do whatever they want.
- hjgjhyuhy 2y ago
  Sustainable forestry is possible, and using wood harvested from such forests in buildings is very climate friendly. It’s one of the best ways to capture carbon for a long time. But of course it requires regulation by effective government, which USA no longer has.