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I don't think many people have actually contemplated what absence of law, defined as rules that apply to rich and powerful people too, is like. In a world with
by hayst4ck 2y ago
I don't think many people have actually contemplated what absence of law, defined as rules that apply to rich and powerful people too, is like.
In a world with law, there are restriction on what society's most powerful can and can't do, because there are police officers, detectives, lawyers, and judges, who all work together to make sure there are consequences for crimes.
In a world without law, the only restriction on what someone with a lot of money or power can do is what they can get away with. We flirted with this territory by subjecting the rich to a very different justice system than the poor, but we are now solidly in the territory of no limits to rich people's power so long as they don't threaten other rich people.
We are now in the realm of having to consider not what is allowed to be done, but what can be done. We can no longer ask what is legal to do, only what is possible to do. It is possible for several men to ambush a person, put them in a car, put them in chains, and send them to a black site without due process. That is a thing that can physically happen in reality. That is a thing that has happened in other countries. Locking political opponents in mental institutions is a thing that can happen. While it seems unlikely that it will happen here, "intellectuals," those with the capability of challenging those in power, have been rounded up and forced to dig their own graves. Babies have been smashed against trees. That is a thing that has happened in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge at the killing fields. That is a thing that is possible to happen. Forced labor camps are a thing that can and has happened. Mass famine as a result of disastrous government policy is a thing that can and has happened. Extermination of humans based on genetic traits is a thing that can happen.
There is no magical power that prevents these things from happening. These things happen because people make decisions to act or not act. Individuals choose to passively let bad things happen rather than put themselves at risk to say no.
Who would stop that abduction from happening with force? What if the men doing that are police officers? What if they go after your family the day after?
The constitution is just a piece of paper. Law is just an idea. For it to have any effect on physical reality, it requires someone to take actions on its behalf. Nothing on a piece of paper forces a president to follow a law. Human beings who believe in something enforce, or don't enforce, the law.
What kind of person will you be if the unthinkable starts happening?
- milesrout 2y ago[flagged]
- fzeroracer 2y ago> What makes you think anyone is operating other than according to law? The fact that they are not complying with the law.
- hayst4ck 2y agoThe fact a Secretary of Defense (second in command of the US military) and a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (highest ranking officer and principle military advisor) have both said he is unfit and doesn't care about the law. Jim Mattis, a Secretary of Defense, in a letter titled "I cannot remain silent": “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us... We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership... We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution.” [1] Mark Milley, a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, spent his final days in his position making sure that the military understood that they took an oath to the constitution before president. Mark Milley in his retirement speech said: We don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. [2] [1] https://archive.is/UmFxO https://archive.is/UmFxO -- https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/american-cities-are-not-battlespaces/612553/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/american-c... [2] https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/29/milley-farewell-speech-trump-dictator-00119130 https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/29/milley-farewell-spe...
- yieldcrv 2y agoNo party has had 60 or more votes in the Senate for many many years. Which means nothing can pass under the goals of one party. The game is that one party says the measure being presented is unnecessary and redundant and doesnt vote in favor of that law. Rinse, repeat. But yes, the culpability is ultimately on Congress. Its also easy to see why it is gridlocked