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Trump pretty much cancelled subsidies, so at least in the US this is the largest reason. Thanks to Trump and to a lesser extent all other presidents of the US,

by jmclnx 2y ago

Trump pretty much cancelled subsidies, so at least in the US this is the largest reason. Thanks to Trump and to a lesser extent all other presidents of the US, 4C here we come my 2100 :( If not for Trump we would probably still hit 3.5C. 1.5 is a forlorn dream, and probably was a dream when it was decided upon.

EcommerceFlow 2y ago
Your ideology is demonizing and burning the company most effectively fighting climate change.
- TomK32 2y ago
  The best invention against climate change is the bicycle. Few resources to produce (often 10% of the weight of the user, a car easily weighs 2000% of it's 1.3 average passengers), low requirements for infrastructure and with a folding bike you can take it with you anywhere. Personal transport is the segment that fails to do its bit against climate change and electric cars are still cars that need wide road, parking, electric infrastructure etc.
- wormlord 2y ago
  EVs are not the solution, they just shift the emissions elsewhere and perpetuate a car-based society which is a much larger issue. Policies like NYCs congestion pricing and light rail are infinitely more impactful.
  - bryanlarsen 2y ago
    > they just shift the emissions elsewhere The electricity grid is going emissions free faster than the transportation infrastructure. So the emissions from the production of both gasoline & electric vehicles are going down quickly.
    - wormlord 2y ago
      That doesn't solve the environmental impacts of: tire usage, EV production, battery degradation, road maintenance, charging infrastructure, and all the costs downstream of suburban development built around cars like: - millions of miles of electrical lines - millions of sq ft of parking lots - wastewater management infrastructure - sewage infrastructure - high municipal debt to service all of the above
- gessha 2y ago
  Which company? BYD, NIO or maybe Wuling?
banqjls 2y ago
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wormlord 2y ago
I have been using RCP 8.5 for all of my long-term decision making (where to move and buy a house, how sustainably I plan to live). Based off the downvotes I receive on here I think I'm too much of a collapsenik for the average HN poster, but one benefit of being neurotic is that by the time people finally start reckoning with the current state of collapse, I have already made peace with it. The downside is that I become miserable to talk to.
- ben_w 2y ago
  Although I'm fairly optimistic about carbon, I think we need pessemists to get any stuff like this done. And we need a diverse set of baseline estimates — yours and worse, not just mine and better — so some of us survive whatever nonsense the next 75 years brings. (I'm also a pessimist about many other things besides carbon).
- VOIPThrowaway 2y ago
  At that level of CO2, your brain is fucked even if you're otherwise ok. I'm more ambivalent about CO2 than just about anybody, but I'd go to war over that concentration.
  - wormlord 2y ago
    I say plan for the worst and hope for the best. > but I'd go to war over that concentration I think this is why the US is trying to annex greenland.

by jmclnx 2y ago

EcommerceFlow 2y ago

Your ideology is demonizing and burning the company most effectively fighting climate change.

TomK32 2y ago
The best invention against climate change is the bicycle. Few resources to produce (often 10% of the weight of the user, a car easily weighs 2000% of it's 1.3 average passengers), low requirements for infrastructure and with a folding bike you can take it with you anywhere. Personal transport is the segment that fails to do its bit against climate change and electric cars are still cars that need wide road, parking, electric infrastructure etc.
wormlord 2y ago
EVs are not the solution, they just shift the emissions elsewhere and perpetuate a car-based society which is a much larger issue. Policies like NYCs congestion pricing and light rail are infinitely more impactful.
- bryanlarsen 2y ago
  > they just shift the emissions elsewhere The electricity grid is going emissions free faster than the transportation infrastructure. So the emissions from the production of both gasoline & electric vehicles are going down quickly.
  - wormlord 2y ago
    That doesn't solve the environmental impacts of: tire usage, EV production, battery degradation, road maintenance, charging infrastructure, and all the costs downstream of suburban development built around cars like: - millions of miles of electrical lines - millions of sq ft of parking lots - wastewater management infrastructure - sewage infrastructure - high municipal debt to service all of the above
gessha 2y ago
Which company? BYD, NIO or maybe Wuling?

banqjls 2y ago

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wormlord 2y ago

I have been using RCP 8.5 for all of my long-term decision making (where to move and buy a house, how sustainably I plan to live). Based off the downvotes I receive on here I think I'm too much of a collapsenik for the average HN poster, but one benefit of being neurotic is that by the time people finally start reckoning with the current state of collapse, I have already made peace with it. The downside is that I become miserable to talk to.

ben_w 2y ago
Although I'm fairly optimistic about carbon, I think we need pessemists to get any stuff like this done. And we need a diverse set of baseline estimates — yours and worse, not just mine and better — so some of us survive whatever nonsense the next 75 years brings. (I'm also a pessimist about many other things besides carbon).
VOIPThrowaway 2y ago
At that level of CO2, your brain is fucked even if you're otherwise ok. I'm more ambivalent about CO2 than just about anybody, but I'd go to war over that concentration.
- wormlord 2y ago
  I say plan for the worst and hope for the best. > but I'd go to war over that concentration I think this is why the US is trying to annex greenland.