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Microsoft will kill Remote Desktop soon, insists you'll love replacement
- jmclnx 2y agoNice, no sooner then Linux forcing Remote Desktop on us to the exclusion of Network Transparency, Microsoft is obsoleting it. So, will Linux follow Microsoft and move to something else ? That seems to be what the Linux Foundation is good for.
- soco 2y agoAs I read from the article, Microsoft is basically retiring one of their three Windows clients. I don't see any implications for Linux in that.
- rcxdude 2y agoYeah, it's typical Microsoft brand confusion, though El Reg is certainly happy to use it for clickbait.
- outofpaper 2y agoDon't feed the trolls
- megadata 2y agoWait, Linux what? Gotta link?
- rcxdude 2y agoI think this about wayland vs X11, where the wayland protocol is local only and remote access generally involves sending pixels as opposed to draw commands around (which, unless you have a very good network connection, is usually the better option anyway, pretty much every time I tried to use X11 over the network it was unusably slow. Wayland also doesn't exclude being able to have remote windows as opposed to a whole remote desktop using pixel-slinging, but I don't know if any actual implementations support that).
- soco 2y agoI have the impression that the entire concept of "store" as seen in Windows is going downhill. No enterprise is able to use it, and that's the stronghold of Microsoft. Also generally less and less applications there, so giving up on this particular one is not even so surprising. After all you still have the "normal" Remote Desktop, and yes the 365 app which is the enterprisey one - expect it to grow all those missing limbs.
- hypercube33 2y agoRest in peace Store for Business. I really miss how easy it was to actually use and like as an Enterprise device manager. Then it was gone
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- candiddevmike 2y agoHow is Microsoft so consistently terrible at naming things? Is there an internal group who's sole job is to ensure names have conflicting meaning?
- John23832 2y agoYes. Internally you’d be amazed how many names are clobbered and how hard it is to find anything. The number of different uses of “subscription” or “container” is something that stood out to me.
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- agys 2y agoI find that Microsoft has the most beautiful/poetic names for some of their products (admittedly the older ones): Windows Word Paint Excel
- apples_oranges 2y agoNow that you mention it those are good names
- johnisgood 2y agoI am not sure I like "Windows" as a name for an OS. :D
- Y-bar 2y agoIt makes perfect sense since the operating system is literally Window-centric. (as opposed to e.g. Mac OS which is application-centric).
- johnisgood 2y agoI mean, sure, it is all windows, it does make sense, it just seems a bit odd. I cannot imagine an OS named "Ablakok" which is the Hungarian equivalent of "Windows". I do not think anyone would name any products as such. If your native language is not English, how does it look like in your language?
- biglyburrito 2y agoJust like we'll love the Windows 11 taskbar. Just like we'll love not being able to uninstall Copilot. Just like we'll love being forced to create a Microsoft Account on install.
- resource_waste 2y agoThings I've ran into on Windows 11. (Dont @ me that 'I don't have that problem', I do) >The colors can conflict between dark mode and deafult OS to the point you cannot see text >There are clickbait news stories that cannot be turned off >Onedrive will fill up with data and bother you about being full >For some reason, some programs will not display despite clicking on them. You must minimize the program infront of them >There is no switch user button >I was unable to figure out how to add a password to an account >Ads are on by default What I find amazing is that corporate professional computers have literal ads on them. I have a fortune 20 job and I have ads on my computer. These ads are for competitor products, for politics, and sports. Anyway, LPT: For a personal OS, Fedora. Literally higher quality than Windows. Shockingly higher quality, I was a bit frustrated that I didn't know about fedora sooner. I don't consider Fedora 'Linux', because Linux has a bad reputation with things like Debian/Ubuntu/Mint that are 2+ years outdated out of the box. Fedora is different. I have a windows computer for legacy software like Adobe and CAD, but those are only used when doing work. Sometimes I have an old video game that needs windows.
- johnisgood 2y agoFor debloating Windows 10 - 11: https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil https://github.com/LeDragoX/Win-Debloat-Tools https://github.com/LeDragoX/Win-Debloat-Tools Other than that, I do recommend Linux (mainstream ones are easy to install), for sure. I have been using it ever since I was 13 years old if not younger.
- stevenAthompson 2y agoIf you say it's solid, I'll buy it... but the first one is terrifying. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Even if Chris Titus is legit if his site gets owned so does anyone running this as Administrator in the way described. > irm "hxxps://christitus[.]com/win" | iex
- rikafurude21 2y agoI gave up with all modern Remote desktop and switched back to vnc and its been working flawlessly. I use tailscale to make the vnc ports accessible to my private network and I'm able to just connect via tightvnc. Remote desktop was only ever complicated because you had to open ports and make your machines accesible online, and with tailscale solving that whole mess for me its as simple as connect to this ip and its done. Thats all the paid options ever took care for you, the core functionality hasnt been changed in forever, unless i guess you care about extreme low latency which products like parsec offer.
- gabegm 2y agoI have recently switched to Rustdesk and it has worked quite well for my use case.
- iknowstuff 2y agoTailscale adds a lot of latency in my testing of Moonlight/Sunshine over it
- p_ing 2y agoWhy would you favor pushing pixels over pushing geometry?
- wheybags 2y agoOne (admittedly obscure) reason is the way rdp handles smart cards. It cancels any locally connected devices and forwards the client's instead. Which is a problem if the whole point of the machine you're connecting to is that it has a USB token attached to it with your codesigning keys on it. That one took quite a lot of swearing to figure out :p We now use this exact setup to get around that (tightvnc + tailscale)
- xfp 2y agoSelf-hosted VPNs cleanly solve the port access problem using free software. As a bonus, there's generally minimal added latency because it's just another encrypted direct TCP connection.
- nottorp 2y agoSo which Remote Desktop are they talking about? I use a "Remote Desktop" to connect to my headless windows box. It has even a Mac OS app. Is that the remote desktop they're talking about? Or some other that I didn't know about.
- al_borland 2y agoI used the Remote Desktop app on macOS at work. It was replaced by the new Windows app. I’ve been using it for a few months. First launch is jarring, as it’s a massive window instead of the tiny saved connection window I used to have. But after resizing the window and tweaking a couple things, it’s functionally the same now. Though I’m not a heavy user these days. I have a VDI I connect to a few times per month, and the occasional Windows server.
- nottorp 2y ago> It was replaced by the new Windows app. Replaced how? My app doesn't yell at me that it's shutting down (as opposed to skype). Also the original article leads me to believe there are several applications called Remote Desktop and only one of them is shutting down. I'm hoping someone will tell me which is which and how I figure out which one I'm using.
- al_borland 2y agoI think there was a notification or some kind of banner on the app. I can’t remember exactly. Sadly I also don’t remember the circumstances of the migration… if I did it, or it happened for me. It was my work laptop, which I only have so much control over, so I’m remain fairly detached from the administration for my own sanity.
- Kwpolska 2y agoThis is clickbait. They will remove the Remote Desktop app from the Microsoft Store. They are not removing Remote Desktop Connection (mstsc.exe), which is what most people think of when they hear "Remote Desktop".
- croes 2y agoThat partially the fault of MS. They have a terrible naming history. Remote Desktop App is deprecated and gets replaced by Windows App but Remote Desktop Connections aren’t affected.
- Washuu 2y ago> They have a terrible naming history. I just read the entire article being a bit confused and it wasn't until I read here that I realized that the name of the replacement application is "Windows App". Why?!
- zombot 2y agoDespite best efforts, they couldn't find a worse name.
- stevenAthompson 2y agoWindows App? Does that let you install Windows inside of Windows via the App store that most companies block?
- JohnFen 2y agoHonestly, I didn't even know there was a Remote Desktop app in the Microsoft store until they announced they were removing it. As long as the desktop app remains, I'm fine.
- TiredOfLife 2y agoIf you look carefully at the link on HN, you will see (theregister.com) theregister.com has similar relation to facts as The Onion but not as funny
- Pixelious 2y agoIn all fairness Remote Desktop wasn't all that great, but yeah, here comes another Windows 11-coded shenanigan that I'm sure we'll love.
- ReptileMan 2y agoThat is quite a roundabout way to increase anydesk user count.
- 9cb14c1ec0 2y agoRustdesk for the win!
- teeray 2y agoSo, is there any way to connect to these machines using Linux now?
- terminaloutpost 2y agoI have used the Windows Store version of Remote Desktop since it landed. I really liked it. When the news broke a few weeks ago they were going to deprecate it in favor of Windows App (tried, didn't like), I decided I would create my own launcher since a large part of my job is automation with PowerShell. This won't be for everyone, but if you live in Windows and need to connect to remote servers and you like Windows Terminal and PowerShell, you may find this to your liking. Code free to use. Pasted here: https://pastebin.com/EGArXbFi https://pastebin.com/EGArXbFi
- Laesx 2y agoI use Windows App at work and honestly it's really good, a lot of QoL features, specially if you have to manage a lot of machines.
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