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> these are all internal territories of Australia. Why they get separate tariffs is weird. Probably because they had separate entries in a "list of countries"
by rob74 2y ago
> these are all internal territories of Australia. Why they get separate tariffs is weird.
Probably because they had separate entries in a "list of countries" which they picked as a base for their list? I don't really think there was more thought put into that, especially not for the countries who "only" got the "baseline" tariff of 10%. Interestingly though, Russia seems to have been completely left out, while Ukraine gets 10%.
- ourmandave 2y ago, while Ukraine gets 10%. The Orange Emperor has a huge hard on to make Ukraine suffer ever since it led to his first impeachment. Zelenski didn't kiss the ring so down they go.
- matt-p 2y ago10% is the hard minimum, nobody has less than 10%, so ergo 10% is actually the most favourable rate. Even the UK gets 10% which is truly mad given we have balanced trade and tarrifs (if anything the US tariffed the UK more than they did them). ^So essentially MAX(10%,(imports-exports)/imports)
- rob74 2y agoIf you look at the full list (available e.g. here https://www.newsweek.com/trump-reciprocal-tariff-chart-2054514 https://www.newsweek.com/trump-reciprocal-tariff-chart-20545...), some countries (most prominently Russia) are not on it. Whether that means anything is debatable, but Mexico and Canada, who were explicitly "spared" from these tariffs (but have other tariffs "tailor-made" especially for them), are also not on the list.
- matt-p 2y agoRussia is a interesting catch, but you can easily imagine why now is an inoptune time to piss them off. The others make sense since they have worse tarrifs (though different, yes)
- graemep 2y agoRussia is already subject to sanctions and high tariffs. What is the balance of trade like? Also imposing high tariffs now would reduce the power of the threat to raise tarrifs: https://www.ft.com/content/ec99b3c2-9f4d-4f34-9a01-f97d981313bf https://www.ft.com/content/ec99b3c2-9f4d-4f34-9a01-f97d98131...
- _t9ow 2y ago> Russia is already subject to sanctions So is Iran, and yet Iran is still on the list.
- Brybry 2y agoIs it possible the Newsweek list is wrong? The EO and Annexes are not on the Federal Register website yet but on the Whitehouse website it has EO[1] and Annex I[2] and Annex II[3]. I do not see Russia or Ukraine mentioned in any of those so I would assume both get the base "10 percent" under section 2/3. [1] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/regulating-imports-with-a-reciprocal-tariff-to-rectify-trade-practices-that-contribute-to-large-and-persistent-annual-united-states-goods-trade-deficits/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/regu... [2] https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Annex-I.pdf https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Annex-... [3] https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Annex-II.pdf https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Annex-...
- marcosdumay 2y agoWell, the reasonable explanation would be that Russia is sanctioned and thus already has an infinity effective tariff. But then, I have no idea if the reasonable explanation applies. Are the other countries not in the list Iran and Cuba?
- chris_wot 2y agoThen that list is wildly inaccurate. Norfolk Island hasn’t been an external territory of Australia for some time (about a decade) - it is literally part of the Australian Capital Territory and they vote in the electorate of Bean. The Trump admin couldn’t arrange a pissup in a brewery.
- kruador 2y agoI've seen a suggestion that they're using ccTLDs. Which might explain why the British Indian Ocean Territory - population, one US military base - has such a high tariff. The BIOT, aka Diego Garcia, has the ccTLD .io.
- lostmsu 2y agoIn that case, where is the tariff rate for USSR (.su)?