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They can do that, yet somehow, Gemini Assistant on Pixel phones still fails to reliably set timers or add shopping list items :-) (which worked fine with Googl

by lima 2y ago

They can do that, yet somehow, Gemini Assistant on Pixel phones still fails to reliably set timers or add shopping list items :-) (which worked fine with Google Assistant)

_the_inflator 2y ago
Bring up dates and times if you want to wreak havoc on any AI. :D Developers around the world's most beloved topic, how to handle date and time correctly, is still a topic of great misunderstanding. AI and AI agents are no different from that. LLM seems to help a little, but only if you know what you are doing, as it usually needs to be the case. Some things won't change so fast; at one point or another, data must match certain building blocks.
- droopyEyelids 2y ago
  One would think the arcana of time zones and the occasional leap second would not interfere with an individual setting egg timers often enough to become a burden
- pixl97 2y ago
  People ask why AI will exterminate human kind. The answer is because we wouldn't universally adopt zulu time.
- kelvinjps10 2y ago
  But this feature was already implemented in normal google assistant
  - ashoeafoot 2y ago
    Supporting existing projects is the oilsand mining of the promotion world. Low, old buzzword content, little reward. Implenting new buzzwords, wirh streetcred rich frameworks , thats the fracking. Efficiency ,capabilties or customer satisfaction are irrelevant .
- ikiris 2y ago
  Except that's not the problem. its basic comprehension of requests. They aren't getting the wrong time, they try to play music, or the phone says "no timers playing" while the google home WILL NOT STOP until you lock the phone. etc. Its basically an embarrassment for a project that's been alive this long from such a major.
- shekhargulati 2y ago
  Google AI Overview incorrectly identified the day for a given date due to a timezone conversion issue, likely using PST instead of IST. ChatGPT and Perplexity provided more accurate and detailed responses. I detailed it on my blog here https://shekhargulati.com/2025/03/23/google-ai-overview-has-a-timezone-bug/ https://shekhargulati.com/2025/03/23/google-ai-overview-has-...
- ashoeafoot 2y ago
  Do they fare better if given the task to sumarize a use calendars hostory first?
namaria 2y ago
My own hands and cheap alarm clocks, or a piece of paper, have been working reliably for several decades. They also don't stop working when a corporation decides they want to hype something.
mgoetzke 2y ago
Phones today cannot even reliable handle things like "remind me to pick up tomatoes next time i am at a store" google knows perfectly well, where I am and wants me to add 'infos' to locations and businesses the second I arrive (just got a notification today), but reminders like these are unavailable.
- ChrisClark 2y ago
  The location based reminders sure worked perfectly fine many years ago, like when I had Nexus phones. It's just getting worse all the time, I don't get it.
  - sgc 2y ago
    I use voice dictation a lot on my phone. It has degraded over the years, but is now basically broken, it fell off a cliff a short wile ago.
carlmr 2y ago
And worked with Samsung Bixby. Gemini, even after getting Advanced, is just terrible for a phone AI. I need to set a lot of alarms and calendar events, I don't need to do crazy photoshop (which Gemini is admittedly good at).
andromaton 2y ago
Or tts a web page

by lima 2y ago

They can do that, yet somehow, Gemini Assistant on Pixel phones still fails to reliably set timers or add shopping list items :-) (which worked fine with Google Assistant)

_the_inflator 2y ago

Bring up dates and times if you want to wreak havoc on any AI. :D Developers around the world's most beloved topic, how to handle date and time correctly, is still a topic of great misunderstanding. AI and AI agents are no different from that. LLM seems to help a little, but only if you know what you are doing, as it usually needs to be the case. Some things won't change so fast; at one point or another, data must match certain building blocks.

droopyEyelids 2y ago
One would think the arcana of time zones and the occasional leap second would not interfere with an individual setting egg timers often enough to become a burden
pixl97 2y ago
People ask why AI will exterminate human kind. The answer is because we wouldn't universally adopt zulu time.
kelvinjps10 2y ago
But this feature was already implemented in normal google assistant
- ashoeafoot 2y ago
  Supporting existing projects is the oilsand mining of the promotion world. Low, old buzzword content, little reward. Implenting new buzzwords, wirh streetcred rich frameworks , thats the fracking. Efficiency ,capabilties or customer satisfaction are irrelevant .
ikiris 2y ago
Except that's not the problem. its basic comprehension of requests. They aren't getting the wrong time, they try to play music, or the phone says "no timers playing" while the google home WILL NOT STOP until you lock the phone. etc. Its basically an embarrassment for a project that's been alive this long from such a major.
shekhargulati 2y ago
Google AI Overview incorrectly identified the day for a given date due to a timezone conversion issue, likely using PST instead of IST. ChatGPT and Perplexity provided more accurate and detailed responses. I detailed it on my blog here https://shekhargulati.com/2025/03/23/google-ai-overview-has-a-timezone-bug/ https://shekhargulati.com/2025/03/23/google-ai-overview-has-...
ashoeafoot 2y ago
Do they fare better if given the task to sumarize a use calendars hostory first?

namaria 2y ago

My own hands and cheap alarm clocks, or a piece of paper, have been working reliably for several decades. They also don't stop working when a corporation decides they want to hype something.

mgoetzke 2y ago

Phones today cannot even reliable handle things like "remind me to pick up tomatoes next time i am at a store" google knows perfectly well, where I am and wants me to add 'infos' to locations and businesses the second I arrive (just got a notification today), but reminders like these are unavailable.

ChrisClark 2y ago
The location based reminders sure worked perfectly fine many years ago, like when I had Nexus phones. It's just getting worse all the time, I don't get it.
- sgc 2y ago
  I use voice dictation a lot on my phone. It has degraded over the years, but is now basically broken, it fell off a cliff a short wile ago.

carlmr 2y ago

And worked with Samsung Bixby. Gemini, even after getting Advanced, is just terrible for a phone AI. I need to set a lot of alarms and calendar events, I don't need to do crazy photoshop (which Gemini is admittedly good at).

andromaton 2y ago

Or tts a web page