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> I'd even go as far as saying that you should reject anyone applying for your startup if they claim to have vibe coding experience I thought vibe coding was j
by moolcool 2y ago
> I'd even go as far as saying that you should reject anyone applying for your startup if they claim to have vibe coding experience
I thought vibe coding was just a meme. There are people who put vibe coding on _their resumes_??
- dygd 2y agoAlso thought it's a meme until I saw a YC job ad for a vibe coder: https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/domu-technology-inc/jobs/hwWsGdU-vibe-coder-ai-engineer https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/domu-technology-inc/jo...
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- vanschelven 2y agosince this is an AI company it's not entirely impossible that they're putting out these ads to portray a certain image, rather than to actually hire people... -- edit "impossible" not "possible"
- llm_nerd 2y agoI mean...what image? The original listing had a terrible pay rate, they proudly boast that you'll be working 12-16 hour days and will start your employment making collection calls, which...I'd rather plunge toilets with my lips. If that ad is trying to push an image, man they couldn't be failing worse. It looks pathetic.
- amarcheschi 2y agoWell, bending spoons openly admits you'll have to work harder than in other companies, and they're not startup either... I've heard horror stories about them, ie interview processes being possibly tougher and longer than faang ones, and much more
- dartos 2y agoThe image that they’re forward thinking by embracing a trend that VCs love. The image isn’t for potential employees, it’s for VCs and hype.
- bambax 2y ago"Do things that don't scale" should really be rewritten as "do things that make you wish you were cleaning toilets with your tongue instead".
- latexr 2y agoYC frequently brags they don’t back ideas; they back founders. If that’s the case, it’s becoming quite clear to they back shitty people who openly exploit other human beings in search of profit.
- dzhiurgis 2y agoWait until you find out doctors only treat desperately sick people, teachers only teach dumb kids and lawyers work with criminals.
- latexr 2y agoNone of that is true. Doctors generally treat whoever comes to them, and sometimes may refuse to treat desperately sick people (see women who died in the US because doctors refuse to treat them after a miscarriage). Teachers teach whoever is in their class. You don’t need to have committed a crime to require a lawyer, even something as simple as writing a contract applies. But even if what you claimed had made any sense, it would still have been completely irrelevant and added nothing to the conversation.
- dzhiurgis 2y agoCrickets
- vanschelven 2y agothe image is that of "doing serious stuff by letting the AI do all the work". which is the promise of vibe coding, as well as the more general promise of this company.
- kingkongjaffa 2y ago> Putting in 12 to 15-hour days, the engineering team has traveled to +10 cities in the past half-year for product launches. Sounds like hell for an engineer.
- llm_nerd 2y agoThought that listing was parody when I first saw it a week or so again. Since then the pay range has increased substantially -- originally it was, I believe, $80 - $120K for your "12 to 15 hour days", and onboarding that literally includes full time making collection calls, which...rofl. EDIT - Both times I've joked about this ad, suddenly my account is rate limited and I can't post anything new without a "you're posting too fast" error. Maybe coincidence, but absolutely humorous.
- wiml 2y agoAlso "putting in 12–15 hour days". I don't know what this company's value prop is but it's not their software.
- amarcheschi 2y agoregular 8hrs + additional time to fix the mess made by blindly vibe coding without caring for what's being done
- propter_hoc 2y ago"including weekends"
- abhijitr 2y agoFrom the job posting it sounds like the company value prop is AI agents as debt collector? They want to “solve deep problems like collecting more money”. What a shitty dystopia we’re creating.
- piva00 2y agoTech just became yuppie 2.0, just like in the 80s and early 90s every sociopath looking for a large paycheck jumped into finance, in the 2010s onward it's been tech.
- disgruntledphd2 2y agoThe founder appears to be Brazilian, and when I worked for a Brazilian company (very briefly) this was the vibe. it was very weird as this particular company often didn't seem to care about results, only the grind.
- rozab 2y ago> Domu is an enterprise voice AI startup crushing it in the financial services industry > Solve deep product problems like how to collect more money with a voice AI agent. > Ready to grind long hours, including weekends, to hit our ambitious goals.
- dwaltrip 2y agoVomit inducing.
- DrillShopper 2y agoI refuse to believe this is a real company or a real job ad
- dalmo3 2y agoAccording to the top echelons of YC, vibe coders are "1000x engineers". Add in 15-hour days and you can probably expect that team of six to surpass AWS in features by next month.
- mattgreenrocks 2y agoThey really are overplaying their hand here on this, aren't they?
- ljm 2y agoPut 1000 vibe coders with 1000 Cursor editors in a room and, given infinite time, they’ll produce an almost complete version of fizzbuzz.
- ginko 2y agoHN should allow comments for job postings.
- disgruntledphd2 2y agoStuff like this is exactly why they don't.
- moolcool 2y agoIgnoring all of the absolutely insane things about that job description. Do they have a list of clients I can access, so I can avoid using any of their products? The first time I get a phone call from an AI bot starting with "I see you opened our email about...", I'm throwing my phone out the window.
- bilekas 2y ago> Do they have a list of clients I can access, so I can avoid using any of their products? If I'm not mistaken they offer service to debt collection companies, if you know any way to avoid a given debt collection service please do let me know!
- moolcool 2y agoThey have a few other use cases listed on their website.
- madeofpalk 2y agoI think this is still a meme.
- joquarky 2y agoI only got two sentences in and can't help but read that job listing like it was written by Jean-Ralphio from Parks and Rec.
- tmpz22 2y agoIt’s not something has has a accepted definition so for an org to put it as a requirement just makes the org a laughing stock.
- j_french 2y agoI recently saw it used in the documentation a university department produces when they want to propose running a new program. I was agog.
- barrell 2y agoDid you see the job post he linked in the article for a “Vibe Coder”? https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/domu-technology-inc/jobs/hwWsGdU-vibe-coder-ai-engineer https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/domu-technology-inc/jo...
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago> At least 50% of the code you write right now should be done by AI; Vibe coding experience is non-negotiable. > Putting in 12 to 15-hour days These two don't correlate. AI is sold as saving time, so why not advertise it as a part-time job? If 50% of code is AI generated, then I expect it to be a 20 hour / week contract at 100% pay. Right? > Your onboarding will be making collection calls. ...but there's AIs that are supposed to do that. Right? This has got to be a troll advert or shell company. Their website doesn't list any employees or products. Half the people working for them on linkedin are deleted accounts, the rest are students or serial founders [0] [0] https://www.linkedin.com/company/domu-ai/people/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/domu-ai/people/
- amarcheschi 2y agothe website doesn't even have tos or a working privacy policy link on their homepage yikes
- hugg 2y agoi think some of the results on the linkedin page are because 'domu' is a polish word (genitive of 'dom' (house, home))
- ziddoap 2y agoThat's a joke posting, isn't it? I have a hard time believing it is a real position. >Your onboarding will be making collection calls. >At least 50% of the code you write right now should be done by AI You're doing collection calls for a company that does "Automated human-like voice calls for the insurance industry".
- ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
- zerr 2y agoPrompt Engineer is a real job title nowadays.
- joquarky 2y ago- Corporate Communications Liaison - Social Media Engagement Strategist - Brand Evangelist - Vision Alignment Strategist - Chief Happiness Officer ...are also real job titles nowadays.
- mattgreenrocks 2y agoI've seen people using it as an identity marker. People are weird.
- latexr 2y agoThere are “AI artists” claiming “prompt engineering” is a skill that should give them copyright over the works the image generator produces, so this is not surprising in the slightest.
- xienze 2y agoIn the US, copyright is assigned to whoever takes a photograph. Pushing a button on your phone isn’t much work at all and yet the courts think that’s enough effort to allow someone to claim copyright over the work. So I don’t think the claim that the prompting, inpainting etc. required to generate an AI imagine isn’t “enough” work for someone to claim copyright doesn’t really hold water.
- joquarky 2y agoIt's discrepancies like this that illustrate that copyright is unnatural and needs major reform.