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It's not an accident if the government intentionally circumvents all checks that usually would apply to cases like this and denies them due process. It's also i
by fabian2k 2y ago
It's not an accident if the government intentionally circumvents all checks that usually would apply to cases like this and denies them due process. It's also intentional that they send these people to a prison in a different country (and for most of them not the country they are originally from) with conditions that would certainly be illegal in the US itself.
This is also about more than just this single case. From the little we know so far it seems that being from Venezuela and having any kind of tattoo is sufficient to be targeted.
- facile3232 2y ago> with conditions that would certainly be illegal in the US itself. Why would you assume this? We're also under investigation for human rights abuses in our prisons. AFAIK most of the rights you have as a prisoner are civil rights.
- BLKNSLVR 2y agoThe US seems to treat its successful citizens incredibly well, but punish its failures incredibly harshly. Your point is valid.
- bestouff 2y agoI wouldn't be so sure about the successful citizens. You probably have to be WASP cis male to maximize your chances.
- throw310822 2y agoYeah, wasp cis males such as Sam Altman or Peter Thiel or Brin, Page, Zuckerberg, Cook, Nadella, Pichai, Huang...
- facile3232 2y ago[flagged]
- throw310822 2y agoMight as well be, but why blaming cis wasps for this? It's pointless bucketing of people based on, well, obviously misguided prejudice.
- facile3232 2y agoIt makes sense if you follow the narrative arc of the country. The above people I mentioned slot right into the WASP trend of the ruling decorum of the country, even if the trend abandoned nominal white Anglo-Saxon protestants centuries ago. It's the same reason why white supremacy is still relevant despite the color of skin being less important: it still ties into the impressive rhetorical power of colorism and the implicit introduction of "others" that allows the oppression of the general population for not being "civilized" enough, as if the word had any meaning to a person whose brain hadn't been turned to porridge by interaction with finance bros.
- milesrout 2y agoSo they aren't white Anglo-Saxon protestants at all. They just are white? Just say white then...
- anal_reactor 2y agoIt's a demonstration that party's over, "damn illegals will be deported". Yes, the government knows that the deportation was unjust, what about that?
- bigyabai 2y agoIt's a poor demonstration, then?
- anal_reactor 2y agoNo, why? Everyone's talking about it, half of the people are outraged, the other half cheer, exactly the expected result.
- tvaughan 2y agoThis isn’t an accident. They said they’d do this. People voted for this. This is what some people want to happen. No one should be surprised by this. On the campaign trail Trump promised to deport 20 million people. They’re aren’t 20 million undocumented people in the US. The only way you can deport 20 million people is to deport a lot people who have no reason whatsoever to be deported.
- woleium 2y agoWhat do you mean no reason? They have the wrong skin colour or the wrong accent or they said something derogatory about the regime, or maybe they just thought it.
- EasyMark 2y agoI find it's more about harming others than helping their own with the new administration, it's very much delighting in the pain of others rather than pursuing a better future or more sane politics.
- UncleMeat 2y agoAbsolutely. You don't send administration leaders for photo ops in front of prisoners or share AI images of people crying as they are arrested unless glee at the suffering of others is part of the point. At least with Abu Ghraib the message from leadership was that it was rogue individuals doing bad things. Whether this was actually true is another question, but at least the Bush admin felt it was important to say "this behavior is wrong." Now we've got messaging from the administration saying "look at how much pain we can inflict."
- throw0101b 2y ago> It's not an accident if the government intentionally circumvents all checks that usually would apply to cases like this and denies them due process. It's also intentional that they send these people to a prison in a different country […] Ironically, from the Declaration of Independence: > Grievance 18: "For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Jury trial:" > Grievance 19: "For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offenses:" * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grievances_of_the_United_States_Declaration_of_Independence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grievances_of_the_United_State... Also, given January 6: > Grievance 27: "He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us […]