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> Frank’s chief software engineer, Patrick Vovor, testified that Javice had asked him to generate synthetic data to support her claim that the company had more
by whack 2y ago
> Frank’s chief software engineer, Patrick Vovor, testified that Javice had asked him to generate synthetic data to support her claim that the company had more than 4 million users. When Vovor asked if that was legal, prosecutors said, Javice and Amar assured him that it was — and told him they didn’t want to end up in orange prison jumpsuits. Vovor testified that he refused to help. “I told them I would not do anything illegal,” Vovor told jurors.
> Seeking to dent Vovor’s credibility, defense lawyers suggested he was resentful that Javice didn’t want to date him.
That is one hell of a defense
- paxys 2y agoThis should be used as an example in engineering ethics classes for how important it is to say "no" to your employer when you are asked to do something that doesn't pass the smell test, no matter how trivial it may seem. This simple act saved the guy his career and (potentially) freedom.
- ibejoeb 2y ago> engineering ethics classes Sidebar: do these exist these days? I mean in software, specifically.
- laverya 2y agoI had one at University of Michigan, but that was almost a decade ago now.
- nightpool 2y agoYes, all accredited institutions are required to have one as part of their Computer Science curriculum.
- anarticle 2y agoIf you didn't have one, this is a great book: https://www.amazon.com/Human-Error-James-Reason/dp/0521314194/ https://www.amazon.com/Human-Error-James-Reason/dp/052131419... Was used at Drexel in the 00s.
- toast0 2y agoYeah, I think it's an ABET requirement for accreditation of engineering degrees. Lots of people with an engineering title don't have an engineering degree though. And of course, passing the class doesn't mean you'll be ethical. Knowing the material and acting on it are different. Also, understanding the requirements and working right at the edge of them is engineering...
- dmitrygr 2y agoUIUC still has it, and it is required for a CS degree: https://siebelschool.illinois.edu/academics/courses/cs210 https://siebelschool.illinois.edu/academics/courses/cs210
- trillic 2y agoUniversity of Michigan: Great course https://open.umich.edu/find/open-educational-resources/information/si-410-ethics-information-technology https://open.umich.edu/find/open-educational-resources/infor...
- lynx97 2y ago[flagged]
- DeathArrow 2y agoIt's not only about having a boss. When a man and a woman land on opposite sides, the man stands a risk to be accused of sexual harassment, misconduct and being misogynistic.
- moshegramovsky 2y agoCan you provide clarification?
- baobabKoodaa 2y agoCan you stop pretending you need clarification on what is meant here?
- robocat 2y agoI just presumed it was guy on guy. Modern sexuality might mean that avoiding the opposite sex is off little help. Instead you need to know how to avoid manipulative sociopaths - which takes years of experience to learn (and perhaps after you learn the skills you decide to join them).
- lynx97 2y agoYeah, I slipped by not mentioning homosexuality. However, while we are at pedantry: Homosexuality isn't particularily a modern phenomenon either. So we both erred on the side of inclusive speech... However, it doesn't really matter in this context, I was particularily refering to male/female, given the whole metoo thing and "trust all women" and all that. As a male, you're particularily exposed to female claims usually being the end of your reputation.
- vkou 2y agoIf you're a witness with damning evidence, literally anything you will ever do, as well as anything you didn't do will be used to impeach your credibility in court. That's what lawyers do. They throw shit and see what sticks.
- belter 2y agoYou mean like sitting idle by your CEO, while he propagates FSD lies for years that can and will and did get people killed? https://youtu.be/BFdWsJs6z4c?t=31 https://youtu.be/BFdWsJs6z4c?t=31
- vismit2000 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_defense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_defense