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> 2. Drop the radical anti-gun stance They did drop the anti-gun stance and nobody cared or believed them. Kamala was on stage during the debate telling the cr

> 2. Drop the radical anti-gun stance They did drop the anti-gun stance and nobody cared or believed them. Kamala was on stage during the debate telling the crowd that she and her running mate were both proud gun owners. Meanwhile Trump is fairly anti-gun. This kind of illustrates the problem. Even if their party radically changes its stance on key issues, everyone is so locked into an ideological bubble that nobody bothers to update their perceptions.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
The only way to win when facts don't matter is to lie to the electorate and appeal to their emotions. And why not? What recourse will they have once you're elected?
ThrowawayR2 2y ago
Voters have no reason to believe their embrace of firearms ownership was sincere. The Democrats have been consistently attempting to introduce more restrictive gun regulations for decades. Maybe if the Democrats added an official party plank pledging not to introduce any more firearms legislation and worked with Republicans to repeal some of the more stupid ones introduced by Democrats, it might be believable.
mindcrime 2y ago
They did drop the anti-gun stance and nobody cared or believed them. Kamala was on stage during the debate telling the crowd that she and her running mate were both proud gun owners. Meanwhile Trump is fairly anti-gun. You can't expect people's mindsets to change overnight though. Organizations develop a reputation of years, decades, or longer. It might take just as long to change that reputation. It takes consistency over time, not just one or two people getting on stage once and saying "I'm a gun owner."
- legitster 2y ago
  This is true. But then again Trump was a staunch democrat who lived in a penthouse his whole life. Yet is able to just flip a switch on any topic and a whole voter base eats it up. So it's really hard to know what grounds to criticize them on when the opposition has just pure chaos magic on their side.
  - disgruntledphd2 2y ago
    Trump is an incredibly good politician. Fortunately for the world, he's much less good at governing.

toomuchtodo 2y ago

The only way to win when facts don't matter is to lie to the electorate and appeal to their emotions. And why not? What recourse will they have once you're elected?

ThrowawayR2 2y ago

Voters have no reason to believe their embrace of firearms ownership was sincere. The Democrats have been consistently attempting to introduce more restrictive gun regulations for decades. Maybe if the Democrats added an official party plank pledging not to introduce any more firearms legislation and worked with Republicans to repeal some of the more stupid ones introduced by Democrats, it might be believable.

mindcrime 2y ago

They did drop the anti-gun stance and nobody cared or believed them. Kamala was on stage during the debate telling the crowd that she and her running mate were both proud gun owners. Meanwhile Trump is fairly anti-gun. You can't expect people's mindsets to change overnight though. Organizations develop a reputation of years, decades, or longer. It might take just as long to change that reputation. It takes consistency over time, not just one or two people getting on stage once and saying "I'm a gun owner."

legitster 2y ago
This is true. But then again Trump was a staunch democrat who lived in a penthouse his whole life. Yet is able to just flip a switch on any topic and a whole voter base eats it up. So it's really hard to know what grounds to criticize them on when the opposition has just pure chaos magic on their side.
- disgruntledphd2 2y ago
  Trump is an incredibly good politician. Fortunately for the world, he's much less good at governing.