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The fact I'm playing this at 20 FPS on Firefox with a RX 7600 shows how much web browsers have regressed in 10 years, not how much they've advanced.

Ralo 2y ago
This implementation isn't using webworkers either. Moving the java VM to a webworker would likely improve performance 10 fold.
TeeMassive 2y ago
It's basically java -> wasm/webgl -> your computer A 10 times hit compared to a native C implementation on performance doesn't really matter anymore, but a compounded 10x10 times will.
zimpenfish 2y ago
> The fact I'm playing this at 20 FPS on Firefox with a RX 7600 Vanilla Minecraft is known for being awful for FPS even outside of a browser. There's a reason most people use a whole slate of performance mods just to get actual decent performance. (I've got a Ryzen 7 with a 3080 and it would frequently hover between 40-50fps even with graphics turned down. Install the performance mods and I can get >120fps with fancy graphics and shaders.)
- InMice 2y ago
  A longstanding performance effecting bug was fixed in the recently released 1.21.5 and the difference is night and day at least for vanilla clients. This one: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC/issues/MC-170134 https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC/issues/MC-170134 I now never see below 60 fps when for all my years of playing this bug would bring down my FPS to the teens or 0 all the time no matter what hardware.
  - zimpenfish 2y ago
    > A longstanding performance effecting bug was fixed in the recently released 1.21.5 Good to know that they're finally considering performance fixes but obviously involves moving to 1.21.5 and until there's mods to disable the bits I don't like, I'll be sticking with 1.20+mods.
piperswe 2y ago
Minecraft back in the day was a Java applet, so the game was running in a native JVM. This demo is running the game in a WebAssembly JVM, so performance is absolutely going to suffer. If the game were actually written for the web platform, it would perform significantly better.
- kulahan 2y ago
  This is a 20-ish year old game. It really shouldn’t matter.
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- singularity2001 2y ago
  well Wasm had the promise of giving near native speed, but since they still don't offer direct write/share of memory it results in abysmal FPS.
Rohansi 2y ago
I get similar performance in Chrome on my phone (Pixel 7a). Perhaps this just runs poorly in Firefox?

Ralo 2y ago

This implementation isn't using webworkers either. Moving the java VM to a webworker would likely improve performance 10 fold.

TeeMassive 2y ago

It's basically java -> wasm/webgl -> your computer A 10 times hit compared to a native C implementation on performance doesn't really matter anymore, but a compounded 10x10 times will.

zimpenfish 2y ago

> The fact I'm playing this at 20 FPS on Firefox with a RX 7600 Vanilla Minecraft is known for being awful for FPS even outside of a browser. There's a reason most people use a whole slate of performance mods just to get actual decent performance. (I've got a Ryzen 7 with a 3080 and it would frequently hover between 40-50fps even with graphics turned down. Install the performance mods and I can get >120fps with fancy graphics and shaders.)

InMice 2y ago
A longstanding performance effecting bug was fixed in the recently released 1.21.5 and the difference is night and day at least for vanilla clients. This one: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC/issues/MC-170134 https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC/issues/MC-170134 I now never see below 60 fps when for all my years of playing this bug would bring down my FPS to the teens or 0 all the time no matter what hardware.
- zimpenfish 2y ago
  > A longstanding performance effecting bug was fixed in the recently released 1.21.5 Good to know that they're finally considering performance fixes but obviously involves moving to 1.21.5 and until there's mods to disable the bits I don't like, I'll be sticking with 1.20+mods.

piperswe 2y ago

Minecraft back in the day was a Java applet, so the game was running in a native JVM. This demo is running the game in a WebAssembly JVM, so performance is absolutely going to suffer. If the game were actually written for the web platform, it would perform significantly better.

kulahan 2y ago
This is a 20-ish year old game. It really shouldn’t matter.
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singularity2001 2y ago
well Wasm had the promise of giving near native speed, but since they still don't offer direct write/share of memory it results in abysmal FPS.

Rohansi 2y ago

I get similar performance in Chrome on my phone (Pixel 7a). Perhaps this just runs poorly in Firefox?