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Voting is the minimum of civic duty, not the maximum.

by Afforess 2y ago

tombert 2y ago
Sure. What are you doing outside of voting?
- Afforess 2y ago
  I’m an active DSA member. What about you?
  - bmitc 2y ago
    And how is that attacking the problems that led here?
    - Afforess 2y ago
      [flagged]
  - tombert 2y ago
    Sure, but is that actually doing something? This isn't meant to be passive aggressive; presumably if you're advertising it, you're doing more than "just being a member", I'm just curious what that is.
- deleted 2y ago
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- bongodongobob 2y ago
  Civil disobedience. There's an entire spectrum of what you can do with that.
sheepscreek 2y ago
Regarding civic duty, I would start by “being civil with your fellow citizens”. The irony is not lost on me. Edit: To be clear, my comment is not aimed at you. I mean we’re missing the A in the ABCs of civic duty. It’s each person for themselves.
- Afforess 2y ago
  How was my response uncivil? Your reply is bad faith because it provides no evidence.
  - sheepscreek 2y ago
    I didn’t intend to offend you, neither did I mean to say you were wrong. I apologize if my words came across that way. My point was a play on the word “civil” and how the bare minimum duty of a citizen should be to love thy neighbour.
timewizard 2y ago
Voting is not a civic duty. I have every right NOT to vote. It's my voice and I can use it as I please. Forcing me into a ballot box to pick between two awful choices is not civilized.
- tombert 2y ago
  I didn't force you to do anything. No one did. I'm just judging you.
  - timewizard 2y ago
    > I'm just judging you. Ah so your sense of civics is that easy to depart with? I take it you think no one could judge you for your position?
    - tombert 2y ago
      > Ah so your sense of civics is that easy to depart with? I don't really agree with the sentiment of "be nice to people doing stupid stuff" that seems to permeate around here, so it's not really a "gotcha" to point out that I'm being a judgmental asshole. > I take it you think no one could judge you for your position? I don't give a shit if people judge me. I have my opinions. You're free to think that position is stupid if you want. There's eight billion other people on this planet, there's always going to be people who think my opinions are stupid. I think yours is stupid. It's a beautiful system.
      - timewizard 2y ago
        > I don't really agree with the sentiment of "be nice to people doing stupid stuff" What is your goal? > I don't give a shit if people judge me. I have my opinions. People would hear more of them if they weren't so coarse. Be generous. You'd might be surprised what you're missing.
        tombert 2y ago

Voting is the minimum of civic duty, not the maximum.

tombert 2y ago

Sure. What are you doing outside of voting?

Afforess 2y ago
I’m an active DSA member. What about you?
- bmitc 2y ago
  And how is that attacking the problems that led here?
  - Afforess 2y ago
    [flagged]
- tombert 2y ago
  Sure, but is that actually doing something? This isn't meant to be passive aggressive; presumably if you're advertising it, you're doing more than "just being a member", I'm just curious what that is.
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bongodongobob 2y ago
Civil disobedience. There's an entire spectrum of what you can do with that.

sheepscreek 2y ago

Regarding civic duty, I would start by “being civil with your fellow citizens”. The irony is not lost on me. Edit: To be clear, my comment is not aimed at you. I mean we’re missing the A in the ABCs of civic duty. It’s each person for themselves.

Afforess 2y ago
How was my response uncivil? Your reply is bad faith because it provides no evidence.
- sheepscreek 2y ago
  I didn’t intend to offend you, neither did I mean to say you were wrong. I apologize if my words came across that way. My point was a play on the word “civil” and how the bare minimum duty of a citizen should be to love thy neighbour.

timewizard 2y ago

Voting is not a civic duty. I have every right NOT to vote. It's my voice and I can use it as I please. Forcing me into a ballot box to pick between two awful choices is not civilized.

tombert 2y ago
I didn't force you to do anything. No one did. I'm just judging you.
- timewizard 2y ago
  > I'm just judging you. Ah so your sense of civics is that easy to depart with? I take it you think no one could judge you for your position?
  - tombert 2y ago
    > Ah so your sense of civics is that easy to depart with? I don't really agree with the sentiment of "be nice to people doing stupid stuff" that seems to permeate around here, so it's not really a "gotcha" to point out that I'm being a judgmental asshole. > I take it you think no one could judge you for your position? I don't give a shit if people judge me. I have my opinions. You're free to think that position is stupid if you want. There's eight billion other people on this planet, there's always going to be people who think my opinions are stupid. I think yours is stupid. It's a beautiful system.
    - timewizard 2y ago
      > I don't really agree with the sentiment of "be nice to people doing stupid stuff" What is your goal? > I don't give a shit if people judge me. I have my opinions. People would hear more of them if they weren't so coarse. Be generous. You'd might be surprised what you're missing.
      - tombert 2y ago