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Im sorry. I really just can’t understand or relate to this at all. Mobile web still feels like such a terrible experience, and apps generally don’t. When’s the

by rzz3 2y ago

Im sorry. I really just can’t understand or relate to this at all. Mobile web still feels like such a terrible experience, and apps generally don’t. When’s the last time you tried booking a flight on mobile web? And how do you deal with all of the real estate the browser steals? Having to log in every time when the app can just cache my authentication and FaceID me?

andelink 2y ago
Not who you replied to, but I more so do not rely on my phone for anything where I would prefer more screen real estate such as doing comparisons like buying flight tickets. I have never bought flight tickets on my phone, only on my computer. I prefer the bigger screen and keyboard for most things actually
renegat0x0 2y ago
Not so sure. There are a ton of bad apps. They also do not work properly often. Besides companies focus on apps, not on web pages. Less money, less focus, therefore worse experience
wodenokoto 2y ago
Seriously, booking hotels and flights is so much better on the web. You get multiple windows for easy flight and price comparisons, within and between providers. I don’t understand people who use apps for this. It is such a pain.
- pasc1878 2y ago
  You are comparing desktops to phones. I do most things on my desktop for the reasons you say but on a phone multiple tabs etc is a pain.
  - wodenokoto 2y ago
    No, I’m saying that the booking.com app, or the Skyscanner app or any of their competitors don’t support multiple tabs. Their websites do (although even on new phones you are at a greater risc of a tab being purged and needing a reload, but still you can multi tab on the mobile website)
    - pasc1878 2y ago
      Ah the difference here is that I can't use multiple tabs on my phone as they are too small. So tabs are only relevant to me on desktops and even then I will often use new windows.
- rzz3 2y ago
  I almost always book via apps. I can compare flights by looking at Kayak (app), then actually book it in the carrier app. I think the workflow just has to adapt to the tools you’re using, and trying to follow the same methods you’d use on desktop just don’t work. I don’t think either particular method is objectively worse than the other for every use case.
wiseowise 2y ago
> When’s the last time you tried booking a flight on mobile web? A week ago, via TravelPerk which is literally a web wrapper. > And how do you deal with all of the real estate the browser steals? What? > Having to log in every time when the app can just cache my authentication and FaceID me? I literally use the same FaceID for my passwords/proton pass. Also, this depends on a website.
whstl 2y ago
> Having to log in every time Sounds like a broken web app. You are currently using a webapp that doesn't do this. It's called Hacker News, and it never asks me to login every time on my phone. > when the app can just cache my authentication and FaceID me Sounds like a broken login form. Hacker News also allows me to login with Face ID on my phone, thanks to my password manager. Optionally webapps can also provide Passkeys.
- terinjokes 2y ago
  > Sounds like a broken web app. > > You are currently using a webapp that doesn't do this. It's called Hacker News, and it never asks me to login every time on my phone. Every time I visit Hacker News on my iPad I'm logged out. Apple has decided that if you don't visit a website often enough it will expire all your cookies for the site. In practice that means I can log in to HN while I'm at the cafe one weekend and be logged out by the time I visit the next weekend.
  - whstl 2y ago
    Are you sure? My iPad has been logged on for months... the only that make it log off on the iPad is when I log off on the desktop. Apparently HN does it on purpose and kills alls sessions on all devices when you log off.
- rzz3 2y ago
  Passkeys do definitely make the mobile web experience better, but unfortunately they’re still not widely supported. I’m not saying mobile web apps can’t be good, but a native app allows for a lot of UX optimization.

by rzz3 2y ago

andelink 2y ago

Not who you replied to, but I more so do not rely on my phone for anything where I would prefer more screen real estate such as doing comparisons like buying flight tickets. I have never bought flight tickets on my phone, only on my computer. I prefer the bigger screen and keyboard for most things actually

renegat0x0 2y ago

Not so sure. There are a ton of bad apps. They also do not work properly often. Besides companies focus on apps, not on web pages. Less money, less focus, therefore worse experience

wodenokoto 2y ago

Seriously, booking hotels and flights is so much better on the web. You get multiple windows for easy flight and price comparisons, within and between providers. I don’t understand people who use apps for this. It is such a pain.

pasc1878 2y ago
You are comparing desktops to phones. I do most things on my desktop for the reasons you say but on a phone multiple tabs etc is a pain.
- wodenokoto 2y ago
  No, I’m saying that the booking.com app, or the Skyscanner app or any of their competitors don’t support multiple tabs. Their websites do (although even on new phones you are at a greater risc of a tab being purged and needing a reload, but still you can multi tab on the mobile website)
  - pasc1878 2y ago
    Ah the difference here is that I can't use multiple tabs on my phone as they are too small. So tabs are only relevant to me on desktops and even then I will often use new windows.
rzz3 2y ago
I almost always book via apps. I can compare flights by looking at Kayak (app), then actually book it in the carrier app. I think the workflow just has to adapt to the tools you’re using, and trying to follow the same methods you’d use on desktop just don’t work. I don’t think either particular method is objectively worse than the other for every use case.

wiseowise 2y ago

> When’s the last time you tried booking a flight on mobile web? A week ago, via TravelPerk which is literally a web wrapper. > And how do you deal with all of the real estate the browser steals? What? > Having to log in every time when the app can just cache my authentication and FaceID me? I literally use the same FaceID for my passwords/proton pass. Also, this depends on a website.

whstl 2y ago

> Having to log in every time Sounds like a broken web app. You are currently using a webapp that doesn't do this. It's called Hacker News, and it never asks me to login every time on my phone. > when the app can just cache my authentication and FaceID me Sounds like a broken login form. Hacker News also allows me to login with Face ID on my phone, thanks to my password manager. Optionally webapps can also provide Passkeys.

terinjokes 2y ago
> Sounds like a broken web app. > > You are currently using a webapp that doesn't do this. It's called Hacker News, and it never asks me to login every time on my phone. Every time I visit Hacker News on my iPad I'm logged out. Apple has decided that if you don't visit a website often enough it will expire all your cookies for the site. In practice that means I can log in to HN while I'm at the cafe one weekend and be logged out by the time I visit the next weekend.
- whstl 2y ago
  Are you sure? My iPad has been logged on for months... the only that make it log off on the iPad is when I log off on the desktop. Apparently HN does it on purpose and kills alls sessions on all devices when you log off.
rzz3 2y ago
Passkeys do definitely make the mobile web experience better, but unfortunately they’re still not widely supported. I’m not saying mobile web apps can’t be good, but a native app allows for a lot of UX optimization.